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Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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I wonder what happens when he sells for $0. An infinite number of buyers?

Yep, sometimes thats called piracy too, in case you're wondering...

Can't be: in his model he'd still be making positive revenue. Reminds me of the famous "Volume" line in this SNL skit (the second of the series below):

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4258/saturday-night-live-first-cit...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4253/saturday-night-live-first-cit...

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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So, of the people paying $1 for the product, you know that half of them would gladly pay $2? Sounds like it's time for 2 versions of the product : (i) The almost-full-featured version ($1) and (ii) The super-duper gold-plated version ($2). The removed feature doesn't even have to be very useful : You might lose 10% of the $1 value people, but snag 25% of the $2 value people (who just want some justification for payin…

Apple's simple take on this may be revealing: iSomething = $X iSomething+ = $X+100 iSomething++ = $X+200

I've always wondered about the sales ratios of iSomething+ versus the other two. It seems to be that most people either want the cheapest, or the best, and that the mid-range exists primarily as a stepping stone to convert the former buyers into the latter.

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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>> I attached two charts to illustrate that. I recently lowered the price of the iPad app ( http://bit.ly/92xWv1 ) from 5 to 1 Dollars. Try $3. I think it was a coincidence $5 and $1 had the same revenue. The maximum revenue price point should be in between. // guy who studied first year microeconomics.

Not necessarily in between, you'd have to draw a demand curve at various different prices to determine the optimum // guy who is studying economics

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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The author is falling victim to the Confirmation Bias. There are only two experiments, yet the author is content to over-generalize and conclude that "no matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue." Why not reduce the price 3/4? Increase it by 50%? Increase it by a 100%?

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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So, of the people paying $1 for the product, you know that half of them would gladly pay $2? Sounds like it's time for 2 versions of the product : (i) The almost-full-featured version ($1) and (ii) The super-duper gold-plated version ($2). The removed feature doesn't even have to be very useful : You might lose 10% of the $1 value people, but snag 25% of the $2 value people (who just want some justification for payin…

I think that's the future pricing model for a lot of software products. Think of games, for example, where you could sell the basic version for $5, then big chunks of DLC for a few dollars apiece. So you get your game into the hands of anyone willing to pay a small fee, in the hope that those who like it will continue to pay additional small fees for more content.

so, shareware

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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>> I attached two charts to illustrate that. I recently lowered the price of the iPad app ( http://bit.ly/92xWv1 ) from 5 to 1 Dollars. Try $3. I think it was a coincidence $5 and $1 had the same revenue. The maximum revenue price point should be in between. // guy who studied first year microeconomics.

Not necessarily in between, you'd have to draw a demand curve at various different prices to determine the optimum // guy who is studying economics

He said "in between", not "exactly half way". The best way to draw a demand curve would be to get some data at the half-way point. // random person on the internet

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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So, of the people paying $1 for the product, you know that half of them would gladly pay $2? Sounds like it's time for 2 versions of the product : (i) The almost-full-featured version ($1) and (ii) The super-duper gold-plated version ($2). The removed feature doesn't even have to be very useful : You might lose 10% of the $1 value people, but snag 25% of the $2 value people (who just want some justification for payin…

This.

Joel Spolsky wrote a pretty good piece on capturing the consumer surplus: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckie...

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's simple take on this may be revealing: iSomething = $X iSomething+ = $X+100 iSomething++ = $X+200

I've always wondered about the sales ratios of iSomething+ versus the other two. It seems to be that most people either want the cheapest, or the best, and that the mid-range exists primarily as a stepping stone to convert the former buyers into the latter.

I think many people want the second-cheapest (psychologically: good value, but not the worst), or the second most expensive (high quality, but not extravagant).

Re: "No matter what price we choose, we always make the same revenue"

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So, of the people paying $1 for the product, you know that half of them would gladly pay $2? Sounds like it's time for 2 versions of the product : (i) The almost-full-featured version ($1) and (ii) The super-duper gold-plated version ($2). The removed feature doesn't even have to be very useful : You might lose 10% of the $1 value people, but snag 25% of the $2 value people (who just want some justification for payin…

No, it was total revenue that returned to previous levels after the initial spike, not volume. Approximately five times as many people were willing to pay $1 as were willing to pay $5.
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