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The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by colpabar »

AinderS wrote: post #39
superchroma wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it was partially in reply to the OP's dead comment blaming this squarely on democrats, and the entire thing struck me as weirdly myopic. It is whataboutism, because I think ascribing blame to a team isn't really helping.

I agree that comment was bizarre. Outsourcing and disregard of human rights abuses in supply chains are not remotely limited to the US Democratic party. Especially since the article itself talks about China.

ok but so what??? the comment is dead and was dead when this post was only a few minutes old. most people don't even know you can see dead comments, so why is it so important to talk about it? the article isn't about democrats, no one else is talking about democrats, so why are you? can't we talk about the bad things described in the article?

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by colpabar »

duncan_idaho wrote: post #19
hunterb123 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is pure whataboutism, you laundry listed other problems to deflect from this one. Noone here or in the article are saying those things aren't a problem, just this is as well. Everytime a business (like Hyundai) or industry gets caught using child labor in their supply chain it's an issue and news worthy. EDIT: now my comment is downvoted, and the article is flagged, ask yourself why can't this site's com…

It's like you learned "whataboutism" and jumped at your first chance to use it. Still got it totally wrong. What part of this comment is deflecting? Seems to be just adding additional info.

the comment is the same as going into a thread about a cop shooting an unarmed person and replying "ok well, that actually happens all the time."

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by trasz »

superchroma wrote: post #3

Well, you're taking a singular vertical slice. How many plastic widgets and doodads in your house were made by an effective slave in China? What about clothes - from sweatshops in vietnam, bangladesh, etc.? We periodically see sensational stories where workers slip tragic notes into goods, but that's about it. On top of that, what about the animals we've hurt systematically? In the industrial revolution, we rendered…

>How many plastic widgets and doodads in your house were made by an effective slave in China?

Or US, which, differently from China, has, in 2022, an entire official slave business, reportedly being an important part of some states' economy. But it's always China that gets mentioned; isn't that strange?

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by trasz »

rjbwork wrote: post #6

I'm sure it is happening, but I strongly suggest you seek mental help. If you believe that an entire political party, whose voters constitute more than half of the country, is a terrorist organization and whose voters must be hunted down, you have been severely radicalized and are disconnected from reality. I do hope you get the help you clearly need.

This was apparently about American Democrats, but fits equally well to CCP. I'm guessing both came from the same kind of propaganda, but with a different logo, for a slightly different target group.

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by PeterStuer »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #34
PeterStuer wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you ever consider that in "sub-replacement" populations they still send poor people down the mines, as that is way cheaper than robots? Never mind the perpetual political destabilization of that region because our oligarch owned nations want the natural treasures buried beneath that African soil for cheap. It's their own fault for having babies. Djeez.

> Did you ever consider that in "sub-replacement" populations they still send poor people down the mines, as that is way cheaper than robots? As long as the poor guy can choose to work something better wages and working conditions will reflect this (or the mine will shut down). See Europe after the black death.

That is what they call a "big if

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by colpabar »

trasz wrote: post #44
superchroma wrote: post #3

Well, you're taking a singular vertical slice. How many plastic widgets and doodads in your house were made by an effective slave in China? What about clothes - from sweatshops in vietnam, bangladesh, etc.? We periodically see sensational stories where workers slip tragic notes into goods, but that's about it. On top of that, what about the animals we've hurt systematically? In the industrial revolution, we rendered…

>How many plastic widgets and doodads in your house were made by an effective slave in China? Or US, which, differently from China, has, in 2022, an entire official slave business, reportedly being an important part of some states' economy. But it's always China that gets mentioned; isn't that strange?

come on man, how can you make such a claim without posting a link

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by AinderS »

colpabar wrote: post #41
AinderS wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that comment was bizarre. Outsourcing and disregard of human rights abuses in supply chains are not remotely limited to the US Democratic party. Especially since the article itself talks about China.

ok but so what??? the comment is dead and was dead when this post was only a few minutes old. most people don't even know you can see dead comments, so why is it so important to talk about it? the article isn't about democrats, no one else is talking about democrats, so why are you? can't we talk about the bad things described in the article?

I wanted to clear up any misunderstanding with superchroma. I agree that the dead comment itself is not worth discussing.

Re: The Green Revolution Is Fueled by 40k Trafficked Congo Child Slaves

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Post by PAPPPmAc »

colpabar wrote: post #48
trasz wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How many plastic widgets and doodads in your house were made by an effective slave in China? Or US, which, differently from China, has, in 2022, an entire official slave business, reportedly being an important part of some states' economy. But it's always China that gets mentioned; isn't that strange?

come on man, how can you make such a claim without posting a link

Pretty sure they're referring to prison labor, eg. https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/captive-labor-exploit...
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