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Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by agloeregrets »

trixie_ wrote: post #7

It's a strange move given Facebook changed their name to promote VR and the Quest is their flagship device. Also surprised that after mass producing this device for almost 2 years their manufacturing and supply chain costs aren't dialed in enough to maintain the current price. The message here is that VR is 'failing'. I hope it's not, but that's the message with this backwards move.

"Current price" Seemed to be purely invented to move units. The hardware margins had to be very large negative numbers. They were losing $2.5B/Quarter for the last two years. To put it in context, the specs of a base Quest 2 are actually somewhat similar to Microsoft's $1000 Surface Pro X or a Galaxy S20 but adding the motion controllers and the specific ground-up custom OS.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by rgovostes »

emadabdulrahim wrote: post #8

I feel like an old grumpy man saying this, but I hate the idea of wearing a device on my face to literally hijack one of the precious senses one has. I'm sure over time I'll look back and laugh at myself for thinking that way.

Do you ever wear headphones?

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by giobox »

Jalad wrote: post #16
roody15 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol exactly. Really wanted to play Half Life / Alex but not about to give Meta any money … absolutely not going to use a facebook account to use a VR device.

To be fair, if you want to play Alyx you can also use the Valve Index. So no Meta involved

At typically more than 2x the cost. I've played Alyx on both, the Index is absolutely not a 2x better experience.

I'm no fan of their corporate parent either, but the value proposition on Quest 2 for general purpose PC VR gaming (especially prior to this price increase) was remarkable given size of subsidy Meta were prepared to make on price.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by andybak »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #10

I'm shocked that there aren't more multiplayer VR experiences. Yes, sure, there's Pavlov and VR Chat. But unless you have a friend who's into VR Chat, it's remarkably difficult to find a game that can immerse two different people at the same time. It felt a bit ironic that mini golf was one of the most fun multiplayer party games. My wife was like "You should bring over your quest 2!" to our new house -- she already…

As someone who has little interest in multiplayer, I've always had the opposite impression - there's too many multiplayer VR titles.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by intrasight »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #10

I'm shocked that there aren't more multiplayer VR experiences. Yes, sure, there's Pavlov and VR Chat. But unless you have a friend who's into VR Chat, it's remarkably difficult to find a game that can immerse two different people at the same time. It felt a bit ironic that mini golf was one of the most fun multiplayer party games. My wife was like "You should bring over your quest 2!" to our new house -- she already…

It's early days. The same was true of the web in the early days.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by nanna »

Am I the only one who struggles to take the name 'Meta' seriously, and still calls Zuckerberg's empire Facebook? Its a name that straddles pretentiousness and inanity ('That is sooo meta.') too acutely, and I resent them adopting a name of a broader movement of engineering for themselves. Or rather stealing it from https://meta.is/ .

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by noncoml »

azinman2 wrote: post #26
trixie_ wrote: post #7

It's a strange move given Facebook changed their name to promote VR and the Quest is their flagship device. Also surprised that after mass producing this device for almost 2 years their manufacturing and supply chain costs aren't dialed in enough to maintain the current price. The message here is that VR is 'failing'. I hope it's not, but that's the message with this backwards move.

We don’t know how much their BOM increased. They likely were either losing money or not much margin, and with the market going downward they probably couldn’t afford to offset it as much anymore.

Imagine where Uber would be today if they wanted to stop losing money so early in the game.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by zlsa »

agloeregrets wrote: post #41
trixie_ wrote: post #7

It's a strange move given Facebook changed their name to promote VR and the Quest is their flagship device. Also surprised that after mass producing this device for almost 2 years their manufacturing and supply chain costs aren't dialed in enough to maintain the current price. The message here is that VR is 'failing'. I hope it's not, but that's the message with this backwards move.

"Current price" Seemed to be purely invented to move units. The hardware margins had to be very large negative numbers. They were losing $2.5B/Quarter for the last two years. To put it in context, the specs of a base Quest 2 are actually somewhat similar to Microsoft's $1000 Surface Pro X or a Galaxy S20 but adding the motion controllers and the specific ground-up custom OS.

> specific ground-up custom OS

There are no doubt huge changes made, but Quest 2 runs Android underneath.

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