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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by imissfirefox »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #32
m463 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think amazon has jumped the shark[1] There is no practical way to buy a reputable/brand name on amazon. Some brand names are "available", but it seems not officially and people are buying them at a store and shipping them to customers. Other brand names are available, but the search results are paid (and manipulated) so they get crowded off the page by sponsored and "5 star (2)" results. and so amazon as a brand is…

A couple of weeks ago, I wanted to order a couple of pairs of Levis jeans. There was no way I'd do that on Amazon. I got them from Costco, instead.

Same situation. Got them from the Levi’s store. In my mind Amazon=counterfeits/stolen

I’d only order very specific things from Amazon and as a result haven’t actually ordered in a couple years.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by rahimnathwani »

One of the posts contains a screenshot of a vendor's company name and address.

The company name (and words in th address) may look really long and suspicious, but it's just because it's transliterated from Chinese.

OP says these are all 'shell companies', but AFAIK it's more onerous and costly to register and maintain a company in China, than in many states in the US.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by SoftTalker »

tryptophan wrote: post #8

Shopping on amazon is really an awful experience nowdays. I really do not want to search through 40 pages of water kettles of really dubious brands. It is so anxiety inducing and unpleasant.

Yeah I haven't bought anything on Amazon for a couple of years now. Got burned once too many times. I went back to buying mostly in local stores. If they don't have what I want, I go online to manufacturers' websites if possible, or to reputable sellers.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by _moof »

xyzal wrote: post #40
spiderice wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so tiresome to read this on every twitter thread that gets posted to HN

But you agree, don't you?

Completely beside the point. It's exasperating to see an identical tangent on every discussion.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by Narretz »

The case that is mentioned is Oberdorf vs Amazon. Here's an article from 2019. https://www.courthousenews.com/amazon-back-on-the-hook-for-d... I can't find anything more recent. The case is interesting as it needs to make a decision if Amazon has the same responsibility for Amazon marketplace as it has for its own listings.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by zachkatz »

hasperdi wrote: post #29
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #6

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

I’m curious… could you give some examples of these blackhat forums?

https://www.blackhatworld.com/

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by pixl97 »

thrwwy5685865 wrote: post #18
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #6

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

>I wonder what the internet would really look like if there was no bot traffic, fake clicks, and fake accounts

So kind of the internet we had in the early to mid 90s

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by yegle »

Amazon employees have a "perk" of a 10% off multi-use coupon, up to $1000. It applies to anything whose seller is Amazon (sold by amazon.com).

In the last few years it's been extremely difficult to make full use of the "perk", simply because there aren't a lot of things that are sold by amazon.com anymore.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by ant6n »

m463 wrote: post #14
tryptophan wrote: post #8

Shopping on amazon is really an awful experience nowdays. I really do not want to search through 40 pages of water kettles of really dubious brands. It is so anxiety inducing and unpleasant.

I think amazon has jumped the shark[1] There is no practical way to buy a reputable/brand name on amazon. Some brand names are "available", but it seems not officially and people are buying them at a store and shipping them to customers. Other brand names are available, but the search results are paid (and manipulated) so they get crowded off the page by sponsored and "5 star (2)" results. and so amazon as a brand is…

The problem I’m having in Germany ist that only Amazon reliable delivers to my door, usually next day.

Every other store ships with DHL, which after several days pretends that they ring you, when they don’t, and then u can go pick it up at the DHL store a day later.

That’s their moat.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by mrguyorama »

Cerium wrote: post #36
lph wrote: post #10

Pro tip: If you absolutely must buy the junk being sold by MOFFBUZW and other randomly generated drop-shipper brands, the exact same product is usually available on AliExpress for 10% the price.

All this cheap junk follows a fairly reliable markup scheme: Factory sells for 1x Taobao sells for 2x Aliexpress sells for 3-4x (2x Taobao) Ebay sells for 8-10x. (~2x Aliexpress) I think Aliexpress is usually about 20% of the Amazon price, but depending on the item I agree that it can be 10%.

With the caveat that on ebay, you can usually find someone in the US wearhousing it for some reason with free 3 day shipping for the same price.
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