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Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

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Post by thr0wawayf00 »

chadash wrote: post #33

While I am not a fan of Facebook/Meta, I actually hope that they do not lose this case. If you want to name your company after a word that is in common usage, then you should have to deal with the fact that others may use the same word for their own purposes. JP Morgan seems like a name that hardly limits anyone trying to name their company. Apple or Meta are just words in common usage.

Their argument hinges on the fact that both companies operate in the VR space, and I agree with Meta.is here.

Trademark law is pretty clear about protecting a brand name within a given market. "Apple" and "Meta" are just words, yes, but if a second computer company named "Apple" were to appear, this would pretty clearly infringe on the Apple trademark, as opposed to say Apple T-Shirt Company.

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#42

Post by sircastor »

t_mann wrote: post #19
whoibrar wrote: post #4

I also occassionally mourn the death of the word Meta, It was such a beautiful and succinct word. Meta means about the thing itself. It's seeing the thing from a higher perspective instead of from within the thing, like being self-aware. Not to forget the words like Metadata, Meta-physics, Meta-analysis, Metameme. Long live Meta[adjective].

The word Alphabet didn't go away when Google renamed their parent company, and I'm confident that the word meta will also prove stronger than its SV appropriation.

In think in the case of Alphabet, they wanted to insulate the Google brand and company from their other ventures, and they’ve successfully done that. Facebook was doing somewhat the opposite. They wanted to insulate their other brands from the Facebook brand. There’s also some suggestion that Mark Zuckerberg sees VR as the whole future of the company, and wanted that reflected in the name.

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#43

Post by layer8 »

whoibrar wrote: post #4

I also occassionally mourn the death of the word Meta, It was such a beautiful and succinct word. Meta means about the thing itself. It's seeing the thing from a higher perspective instead of from within the thing, like being self-aware. Not to forget the words like Metadata, Meta-physics, Meta-analysis, Metameme. Long live Meta[adjective].

“Please delete all my meta data” will become ambiguous. ;)

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#44

Post by helij »

w-ll wrote: post #2

This site is just tried to fake a chrome update for me. Serving up malware. Viewing source their wordpress for sure has been hacked. Obfuscated JS at the bottom of every static js file. Must be something random that it targeted me. cant seam to make it trigger again.

Here as well. I loaded the site again and it works fine on a second try.

I use Firefox and it automatically downloaded a .zip file and shown a page with instructions to update Firefox for 'better user experience'.

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

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Post by hyperhopper »

whoibrar wrote: post #4

I also occassionally mourn the death of the word Meta, It was such a beautiful and succinct word. Meta means about the thing itself. It's seeing the thing from a higher perspective instead of from within the thing, like being self-aware. Not to forget the words like Metadata, Meta-physics, Meta-analysis, Metameme. Long live Meta[adjective].

I cry a little bit every time people use "meta" or "metagame" as a synonym for "strategy"

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#46

Post by dan-robertson »

whoibrar wrote: post #4

I also occassionally mourn the death of the word Meta, It was such a beautiful and succinct word. Meta means about the thing itself. It's seeing the thing from a higher perspective instead of from within the thing, like being self-aware. Not to forget the words like Metadata, Meta-physics, Meta-analysis, Metameme. Long live Meta[adjective].

This usage in modern words traces its way back to an analogy to metaphysics transcending physics. In Greek, meta meant with or after and the book metaphysics was named because it came after physics. The Greek word has related etymology to the Old English mið (or mid) which was subsumed into the meaning of with (an original usage of the word with can be found in the word withstanding).

One may notice words that come from the original Greek meaning if they start with meth or met + some vowel except a (although words with this original sense) and modern words (eg in zoology) also exist based on the old Greek meaning, as well as other irregular constructions (in geology words beginning with meta relate to metamorphosis).

Notwithstanding the broken origins of the sense you describe, it is indeed a good word/prefix.

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#47

Post by joshmanders »

thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #41
chadash wrote: post #33

While I am not a fan of Facebook/Meta, I actually hope that they do not lose this case. If you want to name your company after a word that is in common usage, then you should have to deal with the fact that others may use the same word for their own purposes. JP Morgan seems like a name that hardly limits anyone trying to name their company. Apple or Meta are just words in common usage.

Their argument hinges on the fact that both companies operate in the VR space, and I agree with Meta.is here. Trademark law is pretty clear about protecting a brand name within a given market. "Apple" and "Meta" are just words, yes, but if a second computer company named "Apple" were to appear, this would pretty clearly infringe on the Apple trademark, as opposed to say Apple T-Shirt Company.

> "Apple" and "Meta" are just words, yes, but if a second computer company named "Apple" were to appear, this would pretty clearly infringe on the Apple trademark, as opposed to say Apple T-Shirt Company.

Which is exactly why Apple was called Apple Computers, Inc for a long time, because Apple already existed in computer space and Apple Computers was constantly sued by the original Apple until they finally came to an agreement and the original Apple gave the trademark to Apple Computers.

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#48

Post by easrng »

w-ll wrote: post #2

This site is just tried to fake a chrome update for me. Serving up malware. Viewing source their wordpress for sure has been hacked. Obfuscated JS at the bottom of every static js file. Must be something random that it targeted me. cant seam to make it trigger again.

It's downloading a zipped JScript file, still trying to figure out what it does. It looks like they took an unmodified copy of a normal JS library and wrapped it in an try/catch block so when it errors from not being in the right environment the "error reporter" kicks in and evals some JS is downloads from 582e.call.pgee.org (which appears to be non-functional)

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#49

Post by layer8 »

whoibrar wrote: post #4

I also occassionally mourn the death of the word Meta, It was such a beautiful and succinct word. Meta means about the thing itself. It's seeing the thing from a higher perspective instead of from within the thing, like being self-aware. Not to forget the words like Metadata, Meta-physics, Meta-analysis, Metameme. Long live Meta[adjective].

  I hereby offer
  Without any rhyme nor reason
  This short meta verse.

Re: An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) is suing Meta (or meta.com)

#50

Post by pineaux »

dan-robertson wrote: post #46
whoibrar wrote: post #4

I also occassionally mourn the death of the word Meta, It was such a beautiful and succinct word. Meta means about the thing itself. It's seeing the thing from a higher perspective instead of from within the thing, like being self-aware. Not to forget the words like Metadata, Meta-physics, Meta-analysis, Metameme. Long live Meta[adjective].

This usage in modern words traces its way back to an analogy to metaphysics transcending physics. In Greek, meta meant with or after and the book metaphysics was named because it came after physics . The Greek word has related etymology to the Old English mið (or mid) which was subsumed into the meaning of with (an original usage of the word with can be found in the word withstanding ). One may notice words that come…

Also a nice fact: "Mit" is still the German word for "with". So is "met", but that's in dutch. The Danes use the word: "med".
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