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Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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A decent outcome here would be if Glassdoor revealed all employers that attempt to go after former employees with alerts like the current one on the Zuru page.

Glassdoors business model is selling the ability to take down bad reviews. Why would they out their customers?

Do you have proof or are you just throwing shit to see what sticks?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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> Glassdoor Alert: Employer Legal Action > This employer has taken legal action against reviewers and/or Glassdoor for the reviews that have appeared on this profile. Please exercise your best judgment when evaluating this employer. Learn more about Glassdoor Alerts. i.e. "FFS stop writing reviews, but assume the worst is true and stay the hell away from these clowns"

Wow. That statement is the worst kind of review any potential employee could ever read.

Yeah. Definitely Streisand effected themselves. Wonder if they can sue their own legal counsel for causing themselves so much monetary loss (given that's the grounds they're using to de-anonymize the reviewers)?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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a fatal double-bind for glassdoor’s prospects for continued existence imo.

competitors are surely celebrating this ruling. especially those who physically cannot put anonymous commenters at risk while somehow still turning a profit without being able to traffic in tracking data.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Once had a contract where my client wanted me to do "security work", which was initially meant to be for pentesting their clients, but it turned into me building their wifi auth system. At some point in the gig, one of their clients went to them asking them if it was possible to de-anonymize someone glassdoor review since someone still-employed worked with them. They then went to me to see if I could do it for them.…

DNS records of your VPN or corporate work station would be pretty easy. You can line then up with when the review was posted. Then investigate their workstation more "thoroughly".

Pretty uncool to give employers ideas on how to force their IT staff to rat out employees who speak out.

Edit: yikes, people.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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I read through all the reviews. https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297_P... I don't see anything out of the ordinary, and there are definitely some common threads amongst negative reviews. Wouldn't they have to prove the allegations are false?

>Wouldn't they have to prove the allegations are false?

That's mostly a US thing. England and many former english colony countries have quite liberal (illiberal?) libel laws that puts the onus of the person making the claim to prove it's true.

>defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the defendant can prove its truth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

#46

Would these companies have a case if an employee left refusing to sign the paper work agreeing to not talk shit? One company I left tied their severance package to a signature on that kind of agreement.

They would have to prove the statement is false in court and that they suffered harm due to it. Otherwise it's protected free speech.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

DNS records of your VPN or corporate work station would be pretty easy. You can line then up with when the review was posted. Then investigate their workstation more "thoroughly".

Pretty uncool to give employers ideas on how to force their IT staff to rat out employees who speak out. Edit: yikes, people.

I'm not for it, I'm just saying - it's trivial. I was in your position, kinda - spent many weeks "searching" but "found nothing". They fired them anyway.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

DNS records of your VPN or corporate work station would be pretty easy. You can line then up with when the review was posted. Then investigate their workstation more "thoroughly".

Pretty uncool to give employers ideas on how to force their IT staff to rat out employees who speak out. Edit: yikes, people.

Alternatively, it's a warning to employees on how they might get caught.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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A decent outcome here would be if Glassdoor revealed all employers that attempt to go after former employees with alerts like the current one on the Zuru page.

Glassdoors business model is selling the ability to take down bad reviews. Why would they out their customers?

Hmm, that doesn't correlate with what they say[0] on their support site: "No! Employers cannot pay Glassdoor to remove reviews."

That said, it seems like negative reviews can easily end up violating one of the many other terms of use[1] around review content. Specifically that a user will not: "Post Content that is defamatory, libelous, or fraudulent"... and "Act in a manner that is [...] otherwise objectionable (as determined by Glassdoor)". That's really broad, and negative reviews can easily be framed as "defamatory" or "objectionable" even if they are factual...

[0] https://help.glassdoor.com/s/article/Can-employers-pay-Glass...

[1] https://www.glassdoor.com/about/terms.htm

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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In the past I've been tempted to leave reviews for bad employers I've had. I've always come to the conclusion that the risks of doing so totally outweigh the completely minimal rewards. The risk of being deanonymised, and receiving retaliation from the company is too high. My threat model didn't include the possibility of litigation compelling the company to hand over PII. I was more concerned that I'd inadvertently betray my identity in my review. Not to mention the issues related to Glassdoor as a company, and their lack of objectivity. Why do people use their service in the first place?
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