Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

I didn't say it did, but if you can see blooms from space still, that suggests that they are not "all but gone." They may be significantly reduced, but nowhere near "gone."

If the scientists had made falsifiable predictions about WHEN they expected the population to drop, or the RATE of decline, then we would have something to discuss scientifically.

Instead we get extreme rhetoric that is likely an exageration, that helps convince noone.

But it’s not - that was a global map, this is a local selection of an extreme event. Even if the papers thesis is correct, that average plankton counts are collapsing, there’s no reason to believe you won’t continue to see variances and even extremes.

The writing and language used aside they’ve found something worth trying to verify. They collected a bunch of samples from a lot of places and expected to find a lot more life than they did. This is concerning because it could mean some dire situation reflecting on the health of the entire earth. Seems like reasonable research that spurs further research, but I think if their observations are consistent with future research this would be a pretty serious situation.

No. Significantly older. If there is a name I do not know it.

The seeming inevitability of power dichotomies and the abuse that tends to follow.

Different levels of power is unavoidable. It is part of existence. Those differences may balance out when dealing with two individuals, or groups, but typically there is a more powerful and a less powerful.

And typically the more powerful group takes advantage of the situation. That’s long been advantageous but the advantage has also long become a hindrance on real progress. A parasitic replacement for it.

It doesn’t take humans for this to arise, but humans have spent millennia institutionalizing it in numerous forms.

“How to stop being animals” is too flippant, and not terribly accurate.

Regardless, our society and history is so permeated with this concept / construct, and with attempts to enshrine it as unshakeable truth of being, that “doing something different” is incredibly difficult. For many reasons.

It is so pervasive that it is borderline… fractal? The power structures showing institutionalized abuse are parts of power structures that… abuse of power differences all the way down.

More angles for explaining why than you can shake a stick at. Not a lot of broad “why not,” it is usually focused on some localized example.

That’s an attempt at describing it.

“From that point of view the best 'solution' would be to spread power as wide as possible”

Not necessarily. Because how? And to your point, because on that I think we agree, what would a well intentioned individual do with no guardrails, let alone one with bad intent?

I am under no delusion that the solution would be to simply spread out power. For one, my simple mind can’t imagine how that would actually work, without getting corrupted, in current year.

No, I’m more concerned about how humanity can form any sort of societal structure, power structure, without having one of those two above people (meaning all of us, at times) royally fuck it up.

But that’s what thousands of years of human history seem to indicate. We are doing something wrong as a species, if not at least something horribly inefficient, vulnerable to abuse, and likely to cause harm.

I’m not looking for an answer, I certainly don’t have one. I still don’t fully understand the problem. But it seems lower level than the distribution of power. I’d almost say more primal, or animal, but that feels like it cheapens it.