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Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by ls15 »

superb-owl wrote: post #5

If you're going to illegally leak sensitive information, give it to journalists, not WikiLeaks. Good journalists know how to balance public safety and public interest, and have the resources to redact dangerous information. WikiLeaks is much more anarchic and leans heavily towards total disclosure.

Back when the main leaks happened, most real journalists were not able to use encryption, which would be a risk for the leaker. Snowden had to teach Greenwald encryption first. Newspapers only started to publish their public keys afterwards.

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Post by sneak »

sedatk wrote: post #10
AustinDev wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The go to ‘sprinkle some crack on em’ tool in the alphabet toolbox.

If there was such a tool, why wasn't it used for others like Chelsea Manning?

It was; they got the word "rape" printed next to Assange's name in hundreds of headlines despite the women involved saying that they were railroaded by police and that no rape occurred.

Character assassination is a common tool in the CIA toolbox.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by _kbh_ »

smeagull wrote: post #27
say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #2

Coincidentally had child porn on his machine.

ASD love doing that too. I think they got it from the Americans.

Have we ever seen proof that any intelligence agency has done something like this in the modern era?.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by dehrmann »

jdmonty wrote: post #7
superb-owl wrote: post #5

If you're going to illegally leak sensitive information, give it to journalists, not WikiLeaks. Good journalists know how to balance public safety and public interest, and have the resources to redact dangerous information. WikiLeaks is much more anarchic and leans heavily towards total disclosure.

Caveat emptor leaking anything to “journalists”

Caveat narrator. Alternatively, caveat proditor.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by justanorherhack »

KerrAvon wrote: post #15
superb-owl wrote: post #5

If you're going to illegally leak sensitive information, give it to journalists, not WikiLeaks. Good journalists know how to balance public safety and public interest, and have the resources to redact dangerous information. WikiLeaks is much more anarchic and leans heavily towards total disclosure.

Total disclosure when it happens to favor Russian interests. Not otherwise. https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia...

Wikileaks was leaking before vox had any readers to shill

Most of their leaks are bipartisan

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by shreyshnaccount »

mise_en_place wrote: post #35

It's crazy how much power government bureaucrats have. They can instantly ruin someone's life if they want to. They're unelected and leech off of the taxpayer as well. Our government should be run like a public, for-profit corporation, with each taxpayer as shareholder.

yes because corporates are pillars of freedom, security and honesty right?

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by shreyshnaccount »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #23
bostonsre wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He had state secrets on his machine.. why would they need to do this or what would they gain from doing this?

How would they know he had state secrets on his computer? And how could they convince a judge they knew he had those secrets without admitting to illegal activities themselves?

he leaked them. he had to have them for him to leak them. if you're asking how they know he was the leak, idk

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Post by georgeplusplus »

shreyshnaccount wrote: post #46
mise_en_place wrote: post #35

It's crazy how much power government bureaucrats have. They can instantly ruin someone's life if they want to. They're unelected and leech off of the taxpayer as well. Our government should be run like a public, for-profit corporation, with each taxpayer as shareholder.

yes because corporates are pillars of freedom, security and honesty right?

They can go out of business at least and not be a burden to the public anymore. I think the point of the comment was there would be some accountability being for-profit or at least a metric that the bureaucracy is performing correctly. I dont agree with this notion but I wont resort to attacking him like a rabid dog for suggesting such a thing like all the responses seem to do.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by boomboomsubban »

shreyshnaccount wrote: post #47
boomboomsubban wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would they know he had state secrets on his computer? And how could they convince a judge they knew he had those secrets without admitting to illegal activities themselves?

he leaked them. he had to have them for him to leak them. if you're asking how they know he was the leak, idk

>he had to have them for him to leak them

A smart leaker would then delete them and destroy any disk they touched.

Even if they knew he leaked them, there's no guarantee he would have them on his machine. Which would be another reason to ‘sprinkle some crack on em,' that way he would still be punished if he was prepared.

Re: Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilty of espionage

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Post by saucepines »

justanorherhack wrote: post #45
KerrAvon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Total disclosure when it happens to favor Russian interests. Not otherwise. https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia...

Wikileaks was leaking before vox had any readers to shill Most of their leaks are bipartisan

They were bipartisan until they weren't.
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