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Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota
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> Maybe I’ve gotten cynical, but I was worried that there would be limited retrospection about positions taken during the pandemic given the political sensitivities. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and are better prepared for the next pandemic.
Monkeypox is now at 10,000 cases worldwide with a growth rate of 12% per day and we're seeing the same lagged response as we did with Covid. We've learned nothing.
> We've learned nothing.
I'm not sure. The vaccine situation is much better than COVID. It's still really scary, and I hope we can get it under control soon.
Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota
#43Doesn’t seem like a very ground study. But living in Asia has taught me masks do work, and they work at school. My 3yo doesn’t get a cold when the 1 kid in the class is sneezing and coughing. The 1 case of covid didn’t spread in the school to Teachers or students. But I get there’s a bunch of adults who can’t wear masks as well as a 3yo so in that case the adults are more likely to catch or spread covid with their in…
This article is a pre-print, not yet peer reviewed. Look closely at the writings and affiliations of the second and third authors.
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That's nice. My kids' preschool in a blue state which mandated masks until spring of this year had constantly recurring COVID cases and exposures, including a Delta infection my kids brought home in October last year and passed to me.
A preschool is... not the best-case scenario for proper mask wearing technique.
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A preschool is... not the best-case scenario for proper mask wearing technique.
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> The parent comment was a claim that their 3 year old did not get COVID in a preschool/daycare setting because of widespread mask wearing.
Both yours and theirs can be true. Perhaps preschoolers in Asia have better parental modeling of proper mask wearing, having been a fairly widespread practice in some areas since the first SARS. Perhaps there's a difference in how careful the teachers were to make adjustments when someone's slipped.
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#46I'm surprised nobody has raised concerns about the authors. This group is notorious for producing near-fraudulent preprints in support of their preconceptions and widely publicizing them. Tracy Hoeg was responsible for an atrocious VAERS-based study making false claims about vaccine safety, and Neeraj Sood was intimately involved in the Hoover Institution's successful efforts in March/April 2020 to persuade certain media figures that Covid was less deadly than the flu. You can read more about that VAERS preprint here: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/peer-review-of-a-vaers-dump... and some related recent work around child vaccines here: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/an-impossible-trial/. I believe the third author is a professional covid skeptic associated with the organization "rational ground". This is not a reliable set of sources. I will have time to dig in later, but if this is anything like the rest of their work it's worthless garbage.
Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota
#47> Our findings contribute to a growing body of literature which suggests school-based mask mandates have limited to no impact on the case rates of COVID-19 among K-12 students. I’m glad that public health officials are actually doing this research and publishing these conclusions. Maybe I’ve gotten cynical, but I was worried that there would be limited retrospection about positions taken during the pandemic given the…
> Maybe I’ve gotten cynical, but I was worried that there would be limited retrospection about positions taken during the pandemic given the political sensitivities. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and are better prepared for the next pandemic.
That was a good laugh. Thanks.
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> The parent comment was a claim that their 3 year old did not get COVID in a preschool/daycare setting because of widespread mask wearing. Both yours and theirs can be true. Perhaps preschoolers in Asia have better parental modeling of proper mask wearing, having been a fairly widespread practice in some areas since the first SARS. Perhaps there's a difference in how careful the teachers were to make adjustments whe…
In Singapore you almost never saw kids even young as 2 years old not wearing a mask right. My daughter started wearing from 1y7m and it took about 1 week of adjusting it correctly when she would touch her face or mask to her just leaving it alone.
While you see most westerners wearing their mask below their nose, the kids follow suit.
In Taiwan since September last year, enrolled my daughter in school, every kid in her class wears a mask, they get temp check before being allowed into school, teachers help the kids with the masks. So far her class has had 1 kid who got covid, stopped coming to school, got better, that's it. No outbreak.
So good mask wearing starts with the parents. In asia we take covid seriously, other than westerners you rarely ever see locals not wearing masks correctly.
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#50Doesn’t seem like a very ground study. But living in Asia has taught me masks do work, and they work at school. My 3yo doesn’t get a cold when the 1 kid in the class is sneezing and coughing. The 1 case of covid didn’t spread in the school to Teachers or students. But I get there’s a bunch of adults who can’t wear masks as well as a 3yo so in that case the adults are more likely to catch or spread covid with their in…
In Asia, actual decent factory-made masks seem to have been widely available for years. I would believe that the effects of people in Asia wearing masks sold in Asia is not the same as people in America wearing masks sold in America.
People do not wear masks with a tight seal. Of the last 20 people I saw there were 19 cloth masks, one that is maybe capable of keeping a seal. Lots of chinstraps too. Shanghai.