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Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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the answer IMO as an amateur radio enthusiast is a portable shortwave.

you get FM for local stations to rebroadcast EAS, am for longer distance in the event the emergency affects multiple counties or provinces, and shortwave if your dumpster fire communications monopoly just wrecked the country.

you also have antennae options that can be spooled from most cheap household wire to boost the signal

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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Coverage of earth by earth sensing satellites in visible spectrum is so high, that you can literally write different message into sand / earth every hour. No radio construction necessary XD

Someone needs to be looking, though.

And someone less desirable could also be looking.

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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Whether or not this is a good list, I find the topic very interesting. For more exercise I've started to increase the range of my usual hikes, from just mooching around a 10 mile radius of home to some much more ambitious yomps out into wilderness. Being alone out there obviously raises thoughts about safety. Everyone knows I hate "smartphones" with a passion. For possible emergencies I carry a powered-down (battery…

Get a Garmin inReach mini: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/592606 The key feature of the Garmin is that it has two way communication (on the cheap model you can use a slow character at a time typing, or link to your smartphone with BLE for a proper keyboard). Two way communication with rescuers is an absolute game-changer in real emergencies. You can tell rescuers exactly what happened and the conditions of people, th…

I'm amazed that people willingly go on multi day hikes or sailing trips, regularly, without satellite communication.

Some of them might be wearing multiple hundred dollar jackets and boots and can probably afford them without even needing to think of the cost.

I can only assume they either don't know they exist or don't particularly want them? Do they enjoy the extra adrenaline of not having one?

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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Even if used on the unlicensed bands it’s still illegal to transmit in those frequencies without a license as the UV5R doesn’t comply with the restrictions of license free radios. I.e it exceeds the max allowed power and has a detachable antenna. However, there’s nothing illegal about using the uv5r to receive. And in reality if you only use it on the pmr446 frequencies you’re very unlikely to get busted.

Nobody cares about the ism band, I doubt anyone has ever been "busted" using under a watt.

You're probably not going to be busted, but FRS is very much not ISM band

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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The great thing about the ubiquitous cheap Baofengs is that they operate on frequencies that regular legit radios generally won't let you receive and transmit on due to local laws. For an unknown emergency situation at that price point they seem ideal. You never know what band you might need to communicate on and CB has its own limitations.

> For an unknown emergency situation at that price point they seem ideal. No, they are the worst thing you can buy "for an emergency." Sometimes people buy them with no intention of transmitting, they see the Baofengs as cheap VHF/UHF scanners. But they make terrible scanners. Their frequency range is very limited, their scanning is very slow, their selectivity is poor, and they are missing almost all of the bells an…

> Unless you have a business license or an amateur radio license, you are not allowed push the Transmit button on a Baofeng.

So absurd to read this, as "not allowed" to does by no means translate to "cannot practice". You can do things you're not allowed to do.

There might be consequences for you if you get caught, but choosing to ignore a law is always a choice that can be made.

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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The great thing about the ubiquitous cheap Baofengs is that they operate on frequencies that regular legit radios generally won't let you receive and transmit on due to local laws. For an unknown emergency situation at that price point they seem ideal. You never know what band you might need to communicate on and CB has its own limitations.

> For an unknown emergency situation at that price point they seem ideal. No, they are the worst thing you can buy "for an emergency." Sometimes people buy them with no intention of transmitting, they see the Baofengs as cheap VHF/UHF scanners. But they make terrible scanners. Their frequency range is very limited, their scanning is very slow, their selectivity is poor, and they are missing almost all of the bells an…

Thats a very good point. It reminds of me the first time I pulled out bear spray, thumb off the clip, and prepared to use it. I didn't have to because yelling, making yourself big, and stomping can go a long way. When it was over I noticed I was actually holding it backwards. Embarassing but this was because of exactly this: I've never practiced using it and the situation require reflexived actions.

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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There are one or two competing and/or converging standards for texting over ham radios and I find them very interesting…

But as I have said again and again - the handsets are missing.

I’m not going to take a laptop with a serial link to a yaesu into the woods, nor am I going to 9key in my texts on one of the two models that support it.

Where is a teenage engineering for radio handhelds ?

Where is a qwerty ham handheld ?

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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I woke up yesterday to: no home internet; no mobile connection. I own no broadcast tv service. (Why yes, I am a Canadian Rogers customer). I literally started searching through my junk to see if I owned a radio of any kind, just to try to hear news of what the hell was going on. Eventually I gave up and walked to the library instead, discovering 500 other people in the same situation sharing the wifi. Time to invest…

No car with a radio?

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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There are one or two competing and/or converging standards for texting over ham radios and I find them very interesting… But as I have said again and again - the handsets are missing . I’m not going to take a laptop with a serial link to a yaesu into the woods, nor am I going to 9key in my texts on one of the two models that support it. Where is a teenage engineering for radio handhelds ? Where is a qwerty ham handhe…

Spot on. I don't know why we can't have an HT with a Blackberry-like hardware keyboard to send text. Or maybe something Psion-like (90's micro laptop thing made by Sony). I'd be very satisfied with Blackberry dimensions, as Psion would add bulk.

Re: Best radios to use in an emergency (2021)

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There are one or two competing and/or converging standards for texting over ham radios and I find them very interesting… But as I have said again and again - the handsets are missing . I’m not going to take a laptop with a serial link to a yaesu into the woods, nor am I going to 9key in my texts on one of the two models that support it. Where is a teenage engineering for radio handhelds ? Where is a qwerty ham handhe…

Spot on. I don't know why we can't have an HT with a Blackberry-like hardware keyboard to send text. Or maybe something Psion-like (90's micro laptop thing made by Sony). I'd be very satisfied with Blackberry dimensions, as Psion would add bulk.

I'd take a rugged HT with a sleek and intuitive UI. The companies that make ham gear seem obsessed with complex and cryptic UIs. My Yaesu FT-3D is a good radio and isn't that hard to use, but its UI is still pretty clunky and the imprecise resistive touch screen feels like it's stuck in Y2K.
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