Gonna be a nice aftermarket for mods to disable this garbage bullshit
And older models without those features.
New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
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Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#42Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd argue that it's almost never correct to drive the speed limit. In the US at least they are almost universally slower than the natural speed of the road by 5-10 mph and everyone speeds a bit all the time.
But if new cars were incapable of exceeding the limit, that wouldn't be true for long.
I agree, but I don't think that would be a good thing.
I suppose if the end result was that speed limits got adjusted up 5-10 mph to match the speed of the road it would be fine. I doubt this would happen in general, and I know it wouldn't happen universally.
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#44I object to driving any car with a built-in GPS or an internet connection, on basic privacy grounds. It amazes me how many advocacy groups and organizations [edit: and bicycle fans right here on HN!] are willing to completely demolish essential rights like privacy and freedom of movement, in the name of preventing speeding accidents.
That's their excuse. It's very "think of the children".
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#45There are valid reasons for exceeding the speed limit
A _vast_ majority of exceeding the speed limit is not done for valid reasons.
That might be right, but suddenly enforcing a limit when overtaking can easily cause an accident.
And speeding might not be that bad, many of them seem outdated or plain wrong, to the point where it's safe to go 10-20km/h faster, and in some places ridiculous not to go faster.
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd argue that it's almost never correct to drive the speed limit. In the US at least they are almost universally slower than the natural speed of the road by 5-10 mph and everyone speeds a bit all the time.
But if new cars were incapable of exceeding the limit, that wouldn't be true for long.
There are still tons of cars from the 90's and early 2000's on the road (in particular the '01 Camry), it'll be at least 20-30 years and anyone with a new car being limited is just going to be harassed for driving way too slow relative to traffic.
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#47Back in the day, all Singaporean taxis used to be fitted (by law) with warning systems that went "ding, ding, ding" continuously if the car ever exceeded Singapore's top speed limit of 90 km/h. But even nanny state Singapore gave up on this, because it was just too annoying and pointless.
The one thing speed limiters would be good for is preventing extreme speeding, like this drunk dickhead who drove at 148 km/h on a small street with a limit of 50 km/h and killed 5 people including himself:
https://mothership.sg/2022/06/tanjong-pagar-crash-coroners-i...
Then again, the BMW in question had also been extensively and mostly illegally modded, so any sort of limiting system would almost certainly have been disabled in the process.
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#48At this rate, Europe will become 2nd world by the end of the century.
Instead of focusing on innovation and competition in the global market, Europeans are busy legislating their freedoms away.
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#49I've been worried about something like this ever since maps first started showing the speed limit on the road I was on. It feels like an inevitability.
For whatever reason this feels like an especially significant step on the path towards increasingly excessive control over individuals and it makes me very sad that it's finally happening.
Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws
#50There is absolutely no reason any road car should be able to (consistently) drive faster than ~150km/h
You’d eliminate all traffic fatalities if you limited cars to 5 mph. We as a society have collectively decided that X number of traffic fatalities are acceptable. It’s the price everyone pays for efficient transportation.
Why 150km/h and not 40km/h? Are you too impatient to drive 40km/h even though it could save lives?