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Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

pram wrote: post #31
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I have heard it used unironically. People in NYC and SF NEVER have anything but noble and well intentioned thoughts and comments about places like Texas? lol what an absolute load of shit

You know, I was going to let this go, or just post a snarky "totally not what I said, but you do you, ace," but no. What you did was take what I said, rephrase it to something that I absolutely did not say, and then attack your own rephrasing.

You're right. That is an absolute load of shit.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

enraged_camel wrote: post #29
losteric wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What do you expect the Feds to do about the weather? Intervene and rebalance the water markets, which are currently unsustainable based on bad decades-old science.

Water markets are broken primarily because of water rights, some of which were allocated centuries ago via local and regional contracts. They are nearly impossible to untangle, and state governments are required by law to honor them.

The main agreement affecting the SW today is the Colorado River Compact, which dates back only the 1930s/40s. It is far, far from ancient history, and was demonstrably created in a state of willful ignorance of actual precipitation patterns in the region.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by vkou »

astrange wrote: post #35
ianai wrote: post #3

Really starting to feel dangerous to live anywhere in the US southwest. Lake Meade approaching deadpool and massive wildfire nearing my house this summer. Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help.

Isn't flyover country Kansas, not Arizona?

Correct. And most of the time, the federal government is controlled by the politics of flyover country. It has the Supreme Court, has a pretty solid grip on the senate, wins about half of the presidencies, and is looking to sweep the upcoming election.

It's go-to solution for dealing with climate change is pretending it doesn't exist (and punishing state employees who say otherwise), and with freak weather events by blaming renewable energy, so I can only expect that things in that region can only get worse, before they can get better.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #24
ianai wrote: post #3

Really starting to feel dangerous to live anywhere in the US southwest. Lake Meade approaching deadpool and massive wildfire nearing my house this summer. Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help.

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> …also, you know California has kind of been America's wildfire capital recently, right?

This year, so far, New Mexico has reluctantly claimed that particular throne.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by pram »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #41
pram wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have heard it used unironically. People in NYC and SF NEVER have anything but noble and well intentioned thoughts and comments about places like Texas? lol what an absolute load of shit

You know, I was going to let this go, or just post a snarky "totally not what I said, but you do you, ace," but no. What you did was take what I said, rephrase it to something that I absolutely did not say, and then attack your own rephrasing. You're right. That is an absolute load of shit.

“virtually always” and “have never encountered evidence”

uh huh

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #26
swayvil wrote: post #23

Southern IL here Present spring is looking to be both the coldest and hottest in recent memory. Really obnoxious. For a couple weeks we got crazy powerful winds. Thrashed everything. Right now we are in a drought.

We just had one of the wettest, coolest springs in a long time here in the PNW - really haven't had a spring like this since 2011. And then right on cue the summer switch was turned on a couple of days ago and we're expecting to be in the 90s for a few days (up to 98 on Sunday). It's kind of jarring to go from ~60F cloudy&wet just about every day for the last couple of months to 90s over the course of just a few days…

Here in the high desert of northern NM, we've just been through the opposite. After a month of highs in the 90s, the last week has seen daily highs in the 60s, and finally some rain. It is weird but we're delighted.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

WoahNoun wrote: post #34
jdminhbg wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All eight Senators from CA, AZ, NV, and NM are Democrats, and I assume they "believe in climate change," although I'm not sure whether simply believing is going to make much of a difference.

Senators don't make local policy.

that was a reply to the suggestion that "maybe" the area should elect senators who believe in climate change. we already have. it wasn't a suggestion that this is actually the answer.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by pram »

The situation in Lake Mead is horrific. I’ve been watching a YouTuber that has been filming various locations around the basin for the past couple months. It’s one thing to hear “the lake is doomed” and another to see it disappearing as the days go by:

https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

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