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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Why does Qatar have to force their values on people who are visiting for an international event? Why should any country be allowed to regulate what I do in the privacy of my bedroom between consenting adults? You being downvoted has nothing to do with intolerance towards other cultures and religions, just Qatar being an example of a country forcing values on others in the privacy of their bedrooms.

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Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Isn't it safe to conclude he's talking about the host country of the World Cup?

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> It's their culture, their country, do we have a moral right to say country barbaric for their cultural norms they accepted for hundreds of years?

Yes, who am I to say that throwing a virgin into a volcano to please the fire god is barbaric? They've done it for hundreds of years!

You know what's barbaric? Abolitionism! Slavery has been part of our society for hundreds of years, and that fellow Wilberforce thinks he can just overturn our norms by an act of parliament?

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Interesting that with something as big as football, the organisers can get away with a lot of bad taste decisions. They can host wherever they want and they will be guaranteed a sufficient turnout thanks to the absolute massiveness of the fanbase. Woman's rights or workers rights in a faraway country? Fat load of nothing issues for many who want to see their country in the semis.

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You mean freedoms?

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Don't worry, drinking and partying is outlawed too. And they will absolutely check. Can't provide proof of marriage? Straight to jail it is!

Doha has areas set aside for drinking, bars, etc. They don’t enforce rules about sex between tourists / western expats unless someone involved brings it directly to law enforcements attention and asks for their intervention. Don’t let anyone know you’re gay or the victim of sexual assault. But consenting sex between two middle class non-Muslims behind closed doors is a complete non issue.

> But consenting sex between two middle class non-Muslims behind closed doors is a complete non issue.

> unless someone involved brings it directly to law enforcements attention and asks for their intervention.

Sure sounds like it.

This looks like a sort of dystopian version of the quote: "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him".

Meaning everything is non issue until you have problems with someone, at which point they can just put you in jail because you've been willingly breaking the law even though it was a "non issue". Why anyone would choose to live under these conditions is beyond me.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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it's disgusting to organize public, worldwide events in barbaric countries.

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You are not barbaric if you drone-bomb children in other countries, or have relaxed gun-laws that cause enormous number of civilian deaths in your country.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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> how they can know? This reminds me of the American boy who stole a poster in North Korea, after which he was imprisoned and presumably tortured for 15 months, and died a week after returning home, after having been in a coma for a year: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40335169 I could fear a few football fans are going to end up in the Qatari prison system because they don't understand that the consequence…

A 22 year old is a boy now?

Yes.

Simone De Beauvoir said "One is not born a woman, but becomes one".

The idea is that "man" and "woman" are social roles you gradually grow into as you increase your responsibility for yourself and others. Things that may contribute towards becoming a man or woman are: Becoming a parent, becoming financially independent, becoming emotionally mature, participating in society on the level of your fellow grown-up peers, becoming fully grown.

We will also use the term "young man".

https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-...

> Some mental health professionals do not uphold the notion of age-based maturity. They assert that maturity has more to do with your background, values, and even biology than years alone. How you mature and the things you consider mature will vary based on your raise, neurological development, and cultural framework. Some cultures value autonomy more than emotional depth, and maturity will be marked by the ability to take care of oneself. Other cultures value emotional depth, and dependence is not seen as a pitfall but a lack of emotional intelligence.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Why is no one trying to kick Qatar out of the Swift network?

Probably the fact that it's not at war with one of our "allies". And because it's not threatening to use nuclear weapons, bombing civilians, taking children hostage, disrupting food supply chains...

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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The title downplays this a lot. The first sentence in the article reads "Any extramarital sexual encounter (...) could result in a seven-year jail sentence." That usually means any sexual relation outside of marriage is forbidden, even between life partners.

I wonder how they would verify that with foreigners, especially those with a history of poor record-keeping. I surmise that there must be at least a couple of countries where a marriage certificate is nothing more than a plain sheet of copy paper with something along the lines of "I hereby declare that X and Y are married" in their local legalese. Although I can't help but snicker at the image of a bunch of poor cops…

That might be your problem, not theirs. They could jail anyone they aren't sure about
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