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Deno raises $21M

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Re: Deno raises $21M

#41
post #13

Running little processes on the server without the VM/K8s expensive abstraction has a lot of potential. I'm sure Deno will do great! At least this way of deploying web apps has a lot of potential.

Isn’t this what an operating system is doing by default?

I should say "untrusted code" to be more specific.

Re: Deno raises $21M

#42
post #27

are there real-world, commercial products actually running on """serverless""" architecture? no matter how much I think about that whole concept, I see no application for it that couldn't be done better, faster and easier with regular tools

> are there real-world, commercial products actually running on """serverless""" architecture? Yeah, thousands I would imagine. The last two companies I have worked at have been 100% serverless or nearly 100%. > no matter how much I think about that whole concept, I see no application for it that couldn't be done better, faster and easier with regular tools Considering you have to ask if there are _any_ products runn…

what was the product and the scale then?

Re: Deno raises $21M

#43
post #11

The color changing on this page gives me a migraine: https://deno.com/deploy I like Deno in principle, but I'd love to see how Slack, Github and Netlify are using it.

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Yeah I love making prospective customers feel pain too.

/s

Re: Deno raises $21M

#44
Can someone more knowledgeable highlight what kind of security model do these Deno deployments have compared to virtual machines and containers, if they are isolated at the process level.

Re: Deno raises $21M

#45

> Early in cloud computing, virtual machines were the compute abstraction […] This is funny to me because serverless sounds to me like the return of PHP (etc) shared hosting. What's old is new again?

It’s amusing to see a whole generation of senior developers (“senior” as in 5+ years of experience) that haven’t experienced web development without React[0] and who proceed to reinvent PHP/ASP.NET/RoR.

[0] Used here as shorthand for “modern js driven development”

Re: Deno raises $21M

#46
post #9

> Cold start (time to first response, ms) O(100) O(1000) O(10000) I think ~100 ~1000 ~10000 would be clearer than using the big O notation, since this has nothing to do with fuinctions.

I'm not sure, I'm pretty sure they're trying to communicate that these are worst case estimates. ~100 seems like it's communicating average case estimates (big theta notation), which isn't really the same thing

Re: Deno raises $21M

#47

are there real-world, commercial products actually running on """serverless""" architecture? no matter how much I think about that whole concept, I see no application for it that couldn't be done better, faster and easier with regular tools

It depends on what you categorize as “serverless”. I wrote about how Khan Academy is built on essentially serverless architecture and has millions of monthly users:

https://blog.khanacademy.org/the-original-serverless-archite...

Re: Deno raises $21M

#48
post #11

The color changing on this page gives me a migraine: https://deno.com/deploy I like Deno in principle, but I'd love to see how Slack, Github and Netlify are using it.

Not as dramatic as you but it does feel a bit weird looking at it.

Re: Deno raises $21M

#49
post #27

are there real-world, commercial products actually running on """serverless""" architecture? no matter how much I think about that whole concept, I see no application for it that couldn't be done better, faster and easier with regular tools

> are there real-world, commercial products actually running on """serverless""" architecture? Yeah, thousands I would imagine. The last two companies I have worked at have been 100% serverless or nearly 100%. > no matter how much I think about that whole concept, I see no application for it that couldn't be done better, faster and easier with regular tools Considering you have to ask if there are _any_ products runn…

> Yeah, thousands I would imagine. The last two companies I have worked at have been 100% serverless or nearly 100%.

If you can answer (for legal or other reasons you might not be able to): What kind of monthly bills did your setup have and how many req/s did you serve (in lack of a better metric)? It'd also be useful to know average min/max response time if that's something you remember.

I wish that was a good way of evaluating "performance / price" but that's really hard... If someone know a better way to frame the question regarding price, it would be very helpful.

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