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Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#41
I dont know why this is getting so much hate, I agree with it.

Engineer types want everything to be neat and tidy, well planned and thought out. But this doesn't work in the business world, which is messy and chaotic. If you can't live with th chaos, starting a business is a bad idea. (And I say as someone who had failed to start a profitable-compared-to-day-job business)

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#43
I think realizing this was the biggest disappointment of my adult life. As a kid, you think that there are people looking after the world, looking out for the best interests of society, etc. When you get enough and can see behind the curtain, it's very depressing.

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#44
post #23

Having worked many places and looked at various technical solutions developed and used, I can understand where the author is coming from. Many things work and get the job done, but it's clear that the creators had little knowledge about how to solve the problems they solved from a mere technical know-how perspective. I read him as don't think you need to know everything about something to start doing it.

Agreed that this is a thing, but this is not what the article is about. Running a business and having software engineering prowess are two different problem areas.

I know, it was just an example of the same in another area.

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#45
Some people do, but they're the minority, and you might not even notice them in the crowd.

I've seen well over a hundred organisations, small and large, in my careers as a consultant. They're all run by the 90% that have no idea what they're doing. They're chair warmers. Paper pushers. Project mismanagers.

Then there are the 10% that keep the lights on, put the fires out, have the brilliant ideas, and keep science and society progressing.

Generally they're under-appreciated and under-paid. Sometimes they're not noticed at all. That doesn't mean they don't exist!

Someone figured out all of the amazing things that you take for granted in your life. The x-ray lasers use to make your iPhone. The 5G protocol that lets it get gigabits while you're standing at a bus stop. The encoding that lets you stream your own personal "TV channel". The chemistry that made up the OLED panel that is bright enough to see in sunlight. On and on...

Companies... including startups... are like this. There are the 90% that just keep treading water, and then there's the 10% that push the boundaries.

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#46

I’m going to let you in on a little secret. I spent almost a decade in public sector digitalisation in Denmark, and those politicians who look like they don’t know what they are doing in the media, well, they absolutely know what they are doing. Not only that, but they get advice from a bureaucracy full of well educated, really smart people, who also know what they are doing and have known so for decades. One of the…

The bureaucrats one has to deal with as taxpayer, insuree, petent, or immigrant are different kind of bureaucrats from those holding high positions and advising to them. That's how one gets idea that they don't know what they're doing, they job is to push you away, hold you back. The second kind though... yes it takes enormous volume of cunningness, insight, non-public information to acquire and expand position of power.

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#47

I’m going to let you in on a little secret. I spent almost a decade in public sector digitalisation in Denmark, and those politicians who look like they don’t know what they are doing in the media, well, they absolutely know what they are doing. Not only that, but they get advice from a bureaucracy full of well educated, really smart people, who also know what they are doing and have known so for decades. One of the…

Well digitalization in Denmark is an absolute train wreck of ill thought out decisions. To such a degree that the people in charge of it are either dumb or have ulterior motives. Having worked with bureaucrats as an external consultant and as someone that provided information to the answers for minister questions, I have a much different opinion of our dear bureaucrats.

They might be smart, but it has no impact on the quality of their work. Right or wrong, good or bad, non of that has any bearing on how they do their work. They want to get stuff done. Without getting in any political trouble. In a way that can be claimed as a win (if it actually is a win is immaterial).

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#48

I’m going to let you in on a little secret. I spent almost a decade in public sector digitalisation in Denmark, and those politicians who look like they don’t know what they are doing in the media, well, they absolutely know what they are doing. Not only that, but they get advice from a bureaucracy full of well educated, really smart people, who also know what they are doing and have known so for decades. One of the…

I also prefer your comment to the post. The most successful people in business I know are very bright and hard workers. I like the fact that the writer of the original article is showing some humility. I don't think we should signal however that anyone can succeed in business by bluffing it. I say, have a go at business but don't give up the day job if you can't afford it.

Re: No-one knows what they are doing

#50
post #43

I think realizing this was the biggest disappointment of my adult life. As a kid, you think that there are people looking after the world, looking out for the best interests of society, etc. When you get enough and can see behind the curtain, it's very depressing.

I think it's not depressing but wonderful. All software sucks, nobody knows what they're doing, etc, yet the world keeps chugging along and there's all these incredible things to do, amazing foods to eat and marvels of technology to play with. Imagine if we actually knew what was going on! Rather than feeling depressed that there's nobody with an actual plan, why not be amazed that all these things can come out of such chaos?
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