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Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #5

Does anyone work in an “enterprise” environment who have been dreading this day? Any apps / mainframes / industrials systems that needs IE to run?

I support an enterprise Java app that uses SWT, and some clients may still be using IE for the embedded i-frames, depending on their OS. But I think we have a way of overriding the registry and forcing the IE version, if it comes to that.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Now we have Safari...

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#43

sad day, the day that we have one less web browser only webkit is left the king is dead, long live the king.

what about Gecko?

When Microsoft decided to cede the browser to Chrome with Edge it was clear they don't believe a browser to be an important part of their current strategy.

If they had wanted to stop IE but keep competing they would have made Edge a Gecko-based browser and worked on it.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #26
post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Look like browsers can only exist as monopoly.

Firefox rose to power because people like you and me used it. We told people to use it.

This can happen again, we just need to collectively stop feeding these monopoly wannabes.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#45

I argue that moving it “out of support” doesn't mean anything for what browsers you have to support. Users and businesses still using IE11 aren't exactly those that are on the top of their IT policy game, so I doubt they will be jumping when the browser is “no longer supported by Microsoft.”

A couple of weeks back and edge update forced many many many users to Edge earlier than expected, if your tried to launch iexplorer.exe it would go to edge instead

IEMode in Edge also works very well

So if these companies are getting windows updates at all, or edge updates at all is somewhat not optional

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#46
post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Now we have Safari...

...and Chromebooks. And Windows reminds you to use Edge at every opportunity.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#47
post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

When I clicked on this thread I was thinking when this thread will turn into Google bashing. This is the top comment. I am not disappointed.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Q: What about the Internet Explorer versions that shipped in the Windows 10 LTSC[0], most (all?) of which are very much still "in support"[1]? [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/ [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows#what-...

Ctrl+F is your friend: "For certain versions of Windows currently in-support and used in critical environments, we will continue to support Internet Explorer on those versions until they go out of support. These include all currently in-support Windows 10 LTSC releases (including IoT) and all Windows Server versions, as well as Windows 10 China Government Edition, Windows 8.1, and Windows 7 with Extended Security Updates (ESUs). Future versions of these editions will not include Internet Explorer."

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#49
I’ve still been using IE11 up to now by default (for the websites it still renders adequately, with Firefox as a fallback — there’s a “Open current page in Firefox” add-in), for the following reasons:

- crisper and higher-contrast font rendering on low-DPI monitors

- Ctrl+N/Ctrl+K clone the current tab into a new window/tab including its history, letting you “fork” the tab and effectively navigate a history tree. Edit: And, maybe more importantly, opening a link in new window/tab also clones the history.

- generally good keyboard usage, e.g. for the history tab (you can for example always blindly hit Ctrl+H, Home, Enter to go to the last visited page, something which is more fiddly in other browsers)

- larger viewport height than possible on Chrome/Firefox/Edge (after hiding the toolbar and status bar, configuring tabs to be on the address bar, etc.)

- allows yellow search highlighting (which Firefox doesn’t on light backgrounds)

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look like browsers can only exist as monopoly.

Firefox rose to power because people like you and me used it. We told people to use it. This can happen again, we just need to collectively stop feeding these monopoly wannabes.

If you don't feed the wannabes then how do you dethrone the actual monopolies? :)
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