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Tech CEOs Want Every Worker to Have a Permanent, Public Job Performance File

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Post by walrus01 »

short_sells_poo wrote: post #7
alephxyz wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In the podcast, Youakim provides a seemingly harmless anecdote that illustrates how this works in practice. In response to Hoffman’s question about how he identifies outstanding candidates, Youakim recalled asking one interviewee to meet him for coffee at 7 a.m. on a Saturday as a test for “entitlement.” To decline to meet at such a time would, in Youakim’s mind, illustrate a lack of “going above and beyond.” The pe…

He'll also get a bunch of bootlickers and yes-men who'll do and say whatever the boss wants to hear. This kind of mindset beggars belief. I feel like some people escaped from a Lord of the Flies novel.

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Post by bergenty »

CogitoCogito wrote: post #21
VirusNewbie wrote: post #18

As someone doing interviews now, I would actually prefer a 'bar' type test that employees can take every so often to show their technical skills. It could have all kinds of algorithmic questions, system design, practical application building and whatever else. It would be administered in person to prevent cheating (as much as possible), and companies could choose which scores to pay attention to. Meta doesn't find dy…

Or just hire fast and fire for fast. It’s too bad the US social net is so tied to jobs making that practically unviable. I would much prefer such a system to a long song and dance of any interviews.

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Post by wutbrodo »

Could we stop posting clickbait garbage like Vice? The CEOs of "Sezzle" and "Safegraph" said something on a podcast, and the headline loudly proclaims that "Tech CEOs" desire this.

Two CEOs, one of whom has 500 employees and one who has 100,said something on a podcast, and through the magic of strategically leaving off qualifiers for plural nouns, it's been transmuted into a newsworthy report with a headline that implies something broader than two relative nobodies throwing an idea out.

I get that there are too many wannabe journalists and not enough news, so in some sense I don't blame the author; he's grinding out a living in a morally-questionable field like many, many people do. But why do we have to infect HN with this nonsense?

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Post by joshmarlow »

gitfan86 wrote: post #8
cestith wrote: post #6

So a CEO hires a VP who hires a senior director who hires a director who hires a manager who changes specs and deadlines in the middle of projects all the time, and all the rank and file have that follow them as a black mark when they try to leave for a more sane company? No thanks.

Don't worry someone will create fake companies with the sole purpose of selling good reviews.

Reputation Laundering for Fun and Profit? I can dig it.

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Post by kcplate »

ultrarunner wrote: post #28
methehack wrote: post #15

I think if you get a bad performance review, they should probably just send you to prison.

Our HR director (still literally in school to become an HR director) implemented performance reviews on a goal-based platform. Practically, this meant that since everyone needed a goal, management needed to find faults for even competent employees in order to have goals to attain. Effectually, every performance review was then tainted and came across negatively. I felt so bad conducting mine for my team, and strongly…

It’s my opinion that the sole purpose of HR is to try and find creative ways to justify their own existence.

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Post by vba616 »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #37
twox2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hire fast / fire fast has worked for some relatively lean teams that I've been on, but I can see it being hard to implement at mid-size and bigger companies where there's all kinds of red tape.

The real problem is still the moral one they indicated. If someone leaves a stable job where they perform adequately and you fire them from the new one, you've removed their source of income and probably healthcare. With no knowledge of who they're supporting or what resources they have access to, this could be a very damaging thing to do. If you limit your hiring only to people whose resources can handle that risk,…

Temping is a thing that exists, doesn't it? Is it immoral because some people are stuck with commitments that preclude it?

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Post by vba616 »

alphabettsy wrote: post #34
anm89 wrote: post #9

People are missing the point here. No one is seriously advocating for this. It's just Vice rage baiting because that's what Vice does. It's two people with very little influence discussing a scenario on a podcast.

Did you read the article? Didn’t seem like rage bait. It seemed like they laid out the context of this discussion with the rise of employee surveillance. Do we have to wait for a startup to exist with this product before we can say it’s a bad idea?

If people are talking about "bait", I assume they mean the title is bait for the article. Don't see how the article can rebut the title being designed to enrage by misleading.

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Post by hulitu »

walrus01 wrote: post #32
blitzar wrote: post #24

Charlie Youakim, the CEO of buy now pay later (BNPL) firm Sezzle so a loan shark, I mean thats pretty much the lowest of the low ... Auren Hoffman, the CEO of Safegraph, a large location data broker oh shit, spoke too soon.

maybe they can get into a partnership with a rent-to-own furniture store, a payday loan company and a buy here pay here used car sales lot

And with a Software as a service company. Or food as a service.

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Post by twox2 »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #37
twox2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hire fast / fire fast has worked for some relatively lean teams that I've been on, but I can see it being hard to implement at mid-size and bigger companies where there's all kinds of red tape.

The real problem is still the moral one they indicated. If someone leaves a stable job where they perform adequately and you fire them from the new one, you've removed their source of income and probably healthcare. With no knowledge of who they're supporting or what resources they have access to, this could be a very damaging thing to do. If you limit your hiring only to people whose resources can handle that risk,…

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't see how that's the employer's problem. This risk is ALWAYS there when taking on a new job. Fire fast doesn't really mean one week either, but it can be evident in the first 2-3 months if someone is a bad fit.
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