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Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Re: Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Post by em-bee »

Gigachad wrote: post #40
a13n wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the argument that the problem is mass shooters are crazy, not that you can legally buy AR-15s so easily.

We need to be doing more to control car usage and ownership. It should be made extremely difficult to get your car to a place where people are walking to be able to run them over. There should always be bollards or some other physical structure when physical proximity between cars and people is unavoidable.

it sounds like you are exaggerating, but if you compare street design, a lot can be done. for example, the street outside my home has a sidewalk, a bike lane, and a row of bushes and trees before getting to car traffic. the distance from me to a moving car is more than 5 meters.

Re: Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Post by akomtu »

Gigachad wrote: post #40
a13n wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the argument that the problem is mass shooters are crazy, not that you can legally buy AR-15s so easily.

We need to be doing more to control car usage and ownership. It should be made extremely difficult to get your car to a place where people are walking to be able to run them over. There should always be bollards or some other physical structure when physical proximity between cars and people is unavoidable.

A few basic laws would drastically reduce the mortality rate: cap gas tanks to 5 gallons, cap max speed to 25 mph, require monthly psych evals at DMV, and weekly checkins with a local sheriff, and a hotline to report suspicious neighbors that look unstable and should rather take a bus. Ideally we would just ban these machines of destruction: when this country was founded, people used horses, so I see no reason why anyone should feel entitled to own a car.

Re: Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Post by 58028641 »

akomtu wrote: post #42
Gigachad wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need to be doing more to control car usage and ownership. It should be made extremely difficult to get your car to a place where people are walking to be able to run them over. There should always be bollards or some other physical structure when physical proximity between cars and people is unavoidable.

A few basic laws would drastically reduce the mortality rate: cap gas tanks to 5 gallons, cap max speed to 25 mph, require monthly psych evals at DMV, and weekly checkins with a local sheriff, and a hotline to report suspicious neighbors that look unstable and should rather take a bus. Ideally we would just ban these machines of destruction: when this country was founded, people used horses, so I see no reason why an…

Cars have uses other than killing or entertainment. Cars currently are regulated. The government can take your driver’s license away.

Re: Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Post by nsonha »

djmips wrote: post #5
nsonha wrote: post #4

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If you wanted to make a tasteless joke about it you should have said car since that was the weapon used. But this wasn't a mass killing, this was a homicide due to jealousy. It wouldn't even be noteworthy if there wasn't an airtag involved.

no one was talking about cars, or guns. Article is about airtag, my joke is about airtag and I was making the point about airtag.

Re: Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Post by unsupp0rted »

Gigachad wrote: post #40
a13n wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the argument that the problem is mass shooters are crazy, not that you can legally buy AR-15s so easily.

We need to be doing more to control car usage and ownership. It should be made extremely difficult to get your car to a place where people are walking to be able to run them over. There should always be bollards or some other physical structure when physical proximity between cars and people is unavoidable.

Yes, I completely agree (non-sarcastically).

People with cars are the most dangerous human-threat things to me and my family members and that’s why I don’t own a car, don’t drive a car and live a lifestyle in which I very rarely have to get in one.

I wish countries would make the same option easy for everyone. For most people in North America, life is unlivable without a car, currently.

Only carefully trained and regulated professional transport or delivery drivers should be allowed to operate 1~3 ton killing machines. It’s insanity that 16-year-olds and 80-year-olds can with barely any oversight at all.

Re: Woman accused of tracking boyfriend with Apple AirTag, killing him with car

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Post by Someone »

quanto wrote: post #9

Whenever some AirTag news come up, I see the argument that GPS trackers had existed for a while, and they could be purchased readily through AliExpress. The argument implies that additional threat posed by the prevalence of AirTag is non-existent as the threat model had existed before. This argument misses the point that to a non-technically-minded consumer, AirTag made stalking significantly easier not only on a tec…

I wouldn’t call Samsung a no-name seller, and they introduced smart tags a few months before Apple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_SmartTag, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTag)

Also, I think Apple thought harder about this kind of problem than Samsung. They mad their tags beep every now and then because of that.

It doesn’t seem to be enough, though. I don’t see an easy way out of this. They could put a human in the loop when a user asks for a given AirTag too frequently, but that may not be enough, and would make some users unhappy because of the added friction.

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