Am I the only one not understanding what’s the point of all these efforts to try to run Linux on completely closed with no documentation devices (like iPhones and even mace for that matter). Seems like a lot of effort, for a crappy solution that maybe 0.0001% is going to use before realizing it is crap. Even only effort to keep up with the yearly hw updates that apple does and the complete disregard for backward compatibility and writing hw documentation makes these effort just a technocrat exercise (very cool for sure), but I can’t see anything more than that
We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
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Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
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I am still using my 2012 ipad with iOS 9 to watch youtube and Plex
Running iOS8 on my iPad 2 to read books and comics.
The iPad 2 is a perfect example.
It is good some people still find use for it. However, it is a device that would be perfectly capable of being used to surf the web… but Apple stopped releasing updates for Safari and forbids alternative browser engines for iOS. The web is essentially broken on it, and I'm not even talking about the security issues that it probably has as a consequence..
I'd say it is exactly the example of a device that is today unusable for many things its hardware could handle just fine for no good reason, and therefore obsolete for many people.
Obsolete because of its closed nature. This obsolescence was planned. Maybe not intentionally to make you buy a new one, but still bad and the consequences are the same. Many people probably replaced their iPad 2 with a new tablet for exactly this reason. Or bought a new tablet even if they still use their iPad 2 for the uses cases the iPad 2 is not capable of handling anymore. Apple should be legally forced to enable third parties to support this hardware.
Next time you consider buying closed hardware (not just Apple, and Android tablets are certainly problematic too), think about the iPad 2. Closed => Waste.
Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
#44Am I the only one not understanding what’s the point of all these efforts to try to run Linux on completely closed with no documentation devices (like iPhones and even mace for that matter). Seems like a lot of effort, for a crappy solution that maybe 0.0001% is going to use before realizing it is crap. Even only effort to keep up with the yearly hw updates that apple does and the complete disregard for backward comp…
I see these as more art and a statement about Linux’s ubiquitousness rather than anything especially meaningful. There’s probably not a lot of people who want to run Doom on a lamp, but people did that anyway.
Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
#45Am I the only one not understanding what’s the point of all these efforts to try to run Linux on completely closed with no documentation devices (like iPhones and even mace for that matter). Seems like a lot of effort, for a crappy solution that maybe 0.0001% is going to use before realizing it is crap. Even only effort to keep up with the yearly hw updates that apple does and the complete disregard for backward comp…
From TFA, “Now it was just a matter of what I like the most, hacking on Linux”. This isn’t a product for users, it’s one of this persons hobbies.
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Use as an iPod, it's got a headphone jack which is rather nifty, also still works fine as a basic phone, you can have the battery replaced quite cheaply.
And what do I do with my new phone? Just leave it there while I use the older iPhone? No. Realistically you'll use the new phone. The old iPhone is still not going to be used. So what do we do with them now? We install Linux or we just trash it?
Sell it or repurpose it, just like anything that gets replaced (fridge, blender, car, etc..)?
Just because your old device doesn't support linux doesn't mean it's a brick. (Surely you were aware before you bought the device that it doesn't support linux).
Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
#47Am I the only one not understanding what’s the point of all these efforts to try to run Linux on completely closed with no documentation devices (like iPhones and even mace for that matter). Seems like a lot of effort, for a crappy solution that maybe 0.0001% is going to use before realizing it is crap. Even only effort to keep up with the yearly hw updates that apple does and the complete disregard for backward comp…
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#48This is really all about the iPads to me. Having that "magical piece of glass" run free software for years to come is an absolute win.
Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
#49Although it's always good news to have Linux on more device, in the case of Apple I find it a bit problematic. That means you encourage Apple getting a huge cut on device sale. Or further justify the high prices of second-hand device because now you can 'give them a second-life' (to counter Apple's in-house planned obsolescence program). It's not just about freedom. Apple's walled-garden means you need in every compa…
Let's say I have an iPhone 6 that stopped receiving updates. What do you suggest I do with it: - landfill - install Linux - something else?
- The back camera is probably better than your current webcam
- It can make a good pet or baby monitor (several apps that do this have extremely long support schedules because they know people will reuse old phones)
- If you’re going to dispose of it, return it to Apple for recycling rather than landfill
Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices
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Running iOS8 on my iPad 2 to read books and comics.
The iPad 2 is a perfect example. It is good some people still find use for it. However, it is a device that would be perfectly capable of being used to surf the web… but Apple stopped releasing updates for Safari and forbids alternative browser engines for iOS. The web is essentially broken on it, and I'm not even talking about the security issues that it probably has as a consequence.. I'd say it is exactly the exam…
I won it as a prize, and considering how it's still being used a decade later - it's certainly not a waste yet.
I'm hoping to get Postmarket running on it, if this Linux port works out.