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Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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post #19

"... for Apple users" would have gone a long way > Orion is an alternative browser for Apple users https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#goal

Wish it was available for windows/linux too

I wish it was open source, which would help your concern as well as "what secret stuff does this thing exfiltrate?" Hell, I'd settle for just "source available," given the company

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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It would be easier to evaluate this browser if the website highlighted the unique features instead of listing them together with the stuff that other browsers have too. Every browser has a reader mode, sync, tracking protection, autoplay blocking, picture in picture, etc. Why mention it? That just makes me think that this browser is nothing special.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#45
post #21

I was going to say that unfortunately Vimium, Dark Reader, and 1Password support are non-negotiable, but the browser evidently has its own built-in dark mode, and they claim to support both Chrome and Firefox extensions as well? I'm happy to provide non-Chromium traffic from either Firefox or something else; I'm increasingly running into things (often corporatey things) that only work in Chrome. It also sounds like t…

Unfortunately 1Password doesn't work. Not because of extension compatibility but seemingly because 1Password has an internal whitelist of trusted browsers that Orion is not included in. It's really unfortunate as there's been a community forum post about it for months[1], but it's never been addressed.

Dark Reader has worked perfectly fine for me though.

[1] https://1password.community/discussion/124112/support-for-or...

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#46

I really hope the mobile version will support uBlock Origin.

It does! Using it rn :)

I assume they're fine with never being able to have this on the App Store, since that seemingly goes against their rules, considering the trouble apps like iSH had to go through?

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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post #45
post #21

I was going to say that unfortunately Vimium, Dark Reader, and 1Password support are non-negotiable, but the browser evidently has its own built-in dark mode, and they claim to support both Chrome and Firefox extensions as well? I'm happy to provide non-Chromium traffic from either Firefox or something else; I'm increasingly running into things (often corporatey things) that only work in Chrome. It also sounds like t…

Unfortunately 1Password doesn't work. Not because of extension compatibility but seemingly because 1Password has an internal whitelist of trusted browsers that Orion is not included in. It's really unfortunate as there's been a community forum post about it for months[1], but it's never been addressed. Dark Reader has worked perfectly fine for me though. [1] https://1password.community/discussion/124112/support-for-o…

At least with 1P8 (and I can only speak to the Linux version), they have an opt-in file located in /etc/1password/custom_allowed_browsers (https://1password.community/discussion/comment/641837/#Comme...) although one will want to exercise caution about the ownership of the actual binary, as one can see in that thread

I haven't needed to try that on macOS but it may be worth a shot, given the shared Electron codebase

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#49
post #24

I am not sure if it's been answered somewhere before. Why Webkit? Seems like a bad idea to use an engine that is currently running the "new IE"

I understand how that may feel. Orion founder here. Here was the thought process behind the choice. When you decide to build a browser you first need to decide the browser engine. We decided we don't want Chromium (because who needs another Chromium browser) so that left Gecko and WebKit. Since I happen to personally use macOS and thought it had wonderful future as a consumer OS (this is all happening in 2018) I deci…

That makes a lot of sense. Plus, as someone else commented, it does seem like Safari/Webkit is catching up now.

From an ethical/ideological pov, I really quite agree with you. I use Firefox :P More power to an alternative to the Chromium monopoly.

Thanks for the reply. I am looking forward to trying the beta.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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post #25
post #19

"... for Apple users" would have gone a long way > Orion is an alternative browser for Apple users https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#goal

I agree. I dislike the tendency in Apple circles to just simply imply that things only run on mac. It’s like: I know it’s obvious to you, the software author, but it’s not obvious to me, the reader. Even though I use mac sometimes, I mostly don’t use software that isn’t cross platform.

Welcome to every Mac and Linux user’s experience! Most software is Windows-only but doesn’t mention this fact.
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