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Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#41

Can we like... stop building these ginormous conglomerates? Thanks.

If intellectual property (specifically software patents) were weakened, this would be less of a problem, right? Companies don't buy companies, they buy IP, as I understand it.

Consolidation in mature markets inevitably happens.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#42
post #22

"to speed up its expansion into the enterprise software business." Why does a chipmaker want/need to expand into enterprise software? Shouldn't they be expanding to making different chips?

In 2021 Broadcom semiconductor revenue was $18.8B out of $27.5 billion. Broadcom has a large portfolio of enterprise software offerings. The web page for their software offerings is at https://software.broadcom.com/ . The interesting thing you'll notice is that they do not list any specific software they offer (e.g. Symantec for enterprise security, which by the way is separate from Norton now). Rather they sell you…

https://github.com/utmapp/UTM

The cool thing about UTM is that it runs hardware virt and emulation, so you can run x86 on M1, which Vmware Fusion cannot do.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#43
post #37

Ponders if it will payoff as an investment. Hyper visors are nowdays commodity. Workloads are moving from enterprise onsite datacenters to the cloud. Hyperscalers AWS,Google and Azure running the cloud are running work loads on Linux KVM kernel based virtual machines.

I was under the impression each of those had custom hypervisors? While perhaps still Linux that doesn’t seem like a commodity.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#44
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they want something that’s not affected by the chip shortage.

No, that is just incorrect. Please don’t speculate if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I think you misunderstand the point of HN, that is basically the only thing that occurs here.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#45
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If intellectual property (specifically software patents) were weakened, this would be less of a problem, right? Companies don't buy companies, they buy IP, as I understand it.

Consolidation in mature markets inevitably happens.

...absent functioning antitrust legislation, yes.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#46
post #37

Ponders if it will payoff as an investment. Hyper visors are nowdays commodity. Workloads are moving from enterprise onsite datacenters to the cloud. Hyperscalers AWS,Google and Azure running the cloud are running work loads on Linux KVM kernel based virtual machines.

Not a fan of vmware (I used to work there) but pretty much no one currently can compete with VMware’s full product line and optimizations

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#47
post #21

If they invested instead a mere Billion into optimizing a fork of e.g. QEMU they would destroy VMware in performance.

This isn’t about the hypervisor. This is about the enterprise sales. A bank isn’t going to run their data center on qemu, regardless of the performance. They are going to go with the company that can sell them support contracts with dedicated engineers to answer the phone.

Yup as a former employee I can confirm this is not about the hypervisor although vmw has a good hypervisor, it’s about everything auxiliary to that

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#48

Do these type of transactions ever end up well for either the acquirer or the acquired company?

20 years ago when I was part of a company that was acquired the executives told us that only 1 in 4 were successful, but they were determined to make us one of the successful ones. (it wasn't)

I have no idea if the 1 in 4 number is correct, but it feels reasonable.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#49
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that is just incorrect. Please don’t speculate if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I think you misunderstand the point of HN, that is basically the only thing that occurs here.

I know, but if someone just flat out makes something up I’d hope they’d hedge their language a little bit.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#50
post #21

If they invested instead a mere Billion into optimizing a fork of e.g. QEMU they would destroy VMware in performance.

This isn’t about the hypervisor. This is about the enterprise sales. A bank isn’t going to run their data center on qemu, regardless of the performance. They are going to go with the company that can sell them support contracts with dedicated engineers to answer the phone.

Big companies are starting to learn that free open source can be supported in house, in some cases it is even cheaper, but in others the flexibility of being in control of when a much needed by only you feature is developed is a big deal. Open source also is never acquired and the price jacked up to beyond the worth but they are forced to pay the price anyway because they can't get off before their license expires.
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