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Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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Ok, I understand that a stablecoin it is easier to handle than the dollar. But who is doing it? What is the use case?

Trading. Quick arbitrage, day trading, pump and dumps, leverage. The same thing you can do by having dollars on your stock trading account you usually need coins on your crypto account and it would be crazy to have the volatile ones.

So crypto traders hold $150B of dollar denominated stable coins at the moment?

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I don't get all the bandwagon hate of crypto on this site.. Sure 99% of crypto schemes are b.s and ponzi. But I like to think in terms of use cases. Currently there is no way to send "money" to someone in another country on the other side of the world, in a decentralized way, and without transaction fees. Can this problem be solved without crypto? Probably, but currently crypto is looking like the best way to be able…

> Currently there is no way to send "money" to someone in another country on the other side of the world, in a decentralized way, and without transaction fees. Why is this necessary? I have banks in three countries and generally pay nothing to move money between them or to pay others. This really doesn't feel like a problem that needs to be solved except by those trying to avoid taxation.

You never wanted to send your friend money for them to buy something in the moment?

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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What are people holding all those stable coins for? In contrast to other crypto currencies, nobody is holding it for speculation. I doubt anybody expects stable coins to be a better store of "dollar value" than the dollar itself. Yet, someone holds those $150B worth of stable coins. Who and why?

I don’t understand how this works, but according to [1] it’s used as collateral for loans. This seems to be a form of betting on price changes? See [2].

[1] https://bam.kalzumeus.com/archive/stablecoin-mechanisms-and-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_futures

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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I don't get all the bandwagon hate of crypto on this site.. Sure 99% of crypto schemes are b.s and ponzi. But I like to think in terms of use cases. Currently there is no way to send "money" to someone in another country on the other side of the world, in a decentralized way, and without transaction fees. Can this problem be solved without crypto? Probably, but currently crypto is looking like the best way to be able…

Centralised mechanisms solve the problem for less cost

Okay, tell me how I can send money to my friend in Macedonia from Australia without transaction fees.

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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The moment I learned that people want to buy crypto as a means to get rich in (evil ;)) fiat money, I knew I had a ponzi scheme in front of me. The interesting idea behind crypto once was to have a totally different system. Yet in reality, with greedy apes on a spacerock, it was an unreachable Utopia

yep. bitcoin has been, from the start, about replacing the whole fiat financial system, not interfacing with it, depending on it, and being regulated.

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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Clickbait title it seems; USDT and DAI lost some market share while BUSD and USDC have grown more. > USDC has grown 20% with $10.6 billion more tokens in circulation. BUSD boosted up 22% — representing growth of $4.2 billion. USDT has shed about $4.1 billion, a 5% reduction, while DAI dwindled by 30% — from $8.9 billion to $6.2 billion.

> while BUSD and USDC have grown more. If I am not mistaken, USDC (coinbase) is properly and regularly audited for proof-of-reserves? Not so sure about Binance though. But at any rate, if capital starts to migrate to audited stablecoins from POS (and by that, I don't mean proof of stake) like Tether, sounds to me like a good thing.

BUSD is just rebranded Paxos Standard iirc.

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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The big question with Tether has been, if they are holding commercial paper, whose commercial paper? Traders who deal in commercial paper of real companies that do real stuff don't see Tether present in that market. The dollar amounts are too big to hide. The suspicion is that their "commercial paper" is high-interest loans to other cryptocurrency companies. With the whole crypto sector in decline, those loans are at…

Oh it’s even worse. For a while now some[0] have suggested part of the backing is in bonds issues by Chinese real estate companies

[0] https://twitter.com/thelastbearsta1/status/14690072004965908...

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Currently there is no way to send "money" to someone in another country on the other side of the world, in a decentralized way, and without transaction fees. Why is this necessary? I have banks in three countries and generally pay nothing to move money between them or to pay others. This really doesn't feel like a problem that needs to be solved except by those trying to avoid taxation.

You never wanted to send your friend money for them to buy something in the moment?

And there are dozens and dozens of ways to do that: Venmo, PayPal, iPay, bill pay, ach, wire transfer, iBAN, payconiq, biscuit, cash, check, beer.

And that's just in my neck of the woods, I'm sure I'm forgetting more.

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trading. Quick arbitrage, day trading, pump and dumps, leverage. The same thing you can do by having dollars on your stock trading account you usually need coins on your crypto account and it would be crazy to have the volatile ones.

So crypto traders hold $150B of dollar denominated stable coins at the moment?

With the crypto market cap at $1300B that sounds pretty reasonable to have 11-12% cash on hand

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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Centralised mechanisms solve the problem for less cost

Okay, tell me how I can send money to my friend in Macedonia from Australia without transaction fees.

you can't do that with crypto either (and crypto likely will have higher transaction fees)
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