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Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by rglullis »

nicce wrote: post #33
rglullis wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the use case, I don't get why there is a need for yet-another app for it when there group messaging apps can do that. > in a way that doesn't bombard Messages I'm pretty sure that you can just mute notifications from WhatsApp/Telegram/Matrix/XMPP/Messenger-du-jour...

It has feed about posts like original Facebook without algorithms. WhatsApp et al. does not have.

Ah, ok. So then the question becomes "why not Mastodon/Pixelfed/Pleroma", especially now that they are implementing "private group" functionality and you can choose who gets to see your posts (besides the usual public/followers-only/private message)?

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by princevegeta89 »

lelandfe wrote: post #26
egberts1 wrote: post #20

Just let me stop you right there as I reiterate what Apple App Store has to say about HalloApp and its privacy: Data Linked to You The following data, which may be collected and linked to your identity, may be used for the following purposes: * Contact Info Phone number (your most prized privacy info). This is a FULL-STOP right there in these days and ages. * Contacts Contacts (your entire address book, who would wan…

> We use your phone number to connect you with friends and family. Beyond that, we never collect, store or use any personal information and never show you ads. Never. For real. From their homepage. Contact Info and Contacts sharing are inherent to this app, it seems. It's worth noting that "beyond that, we never collect [more personal information]" is pretty clearly incorrect, since they do at least also collect cont…

"We're not selling your data, we're sharing it"

Hmmm what is that supposed to mean? If they're sharing it they're doing it for a business reason right

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by lelandfe »

vineyardmike wrote: post #38
lelandfe wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We use your phone number to connect you with friends and family. Beyond that, we never collect, store or use any personal information and never show you ads. Never. For real. From their homepage. Contact Info and Contacts sharing are inherent to this app, it seems. It's worth noting that "beyond that, we never collect [more personal information]" is pretty clearly incorrect, since they do at least also collect cont…

> We're not selling your data, we're transferring it. To be fair, if they get purchased or otherwise change hands, you'd want the data transferred and not deleted or siloed so it can't be used for its intended purpose. > in which we are acquired by or merged with another company or we sell, liquidate, or transfer all or a portion of our business or assets. This reads to me like "if we or our product become part of so…

I don't see that as an "aggressive" interpretation of the words – that's the actual provision in the policy. There's a lot in that sentence, let's reduce it to the relevant stuff:

> We may transfer your personal data to [third parties] in connection with... a corporate transaction or... we are acquired by or merged with another company or we sell, liquidate, or transfer all or a portion of our business or assets

I don't understand why a company preaching privacy wouldn't want to show good faith by making an ironclad privacy policy around the same.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by pessimizer »

kube-system wrote: post #32
pessimizer wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the headlines. The journalistic use of scare quotes around single words in headlines is so they can trumpet claims without taking legal responsibility for them.

They are more commonly used just to communicate to the reader about which part of the headline is paraphrased and which part is not. A subject’s diction can be very important in many news stories and so quotations of this type can communicate a lot of information in a short headline. It also indicates when a phrase is not editorial in nature, but a claim made by someone else.

Single-word quotes can't help but be taken out of context.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by lelandfe »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #42
lelandfe wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We use your phone number to connect you with friends and family. Beyond that, we never collect, store or use any personal information and never show you ads. Never. For real. From their homepage. Contact Info and Contacts sharing are inherent to this app, it seems. It's worth noting that "beyond that, we never collect [more personal information]" is pretty clearly incorrect, since they do at least also collect cont…

"We're not selling your data, we're sharing it" Hmmm what is that supposed to mean? If they're sharing it they're doing it for a business reason right

My point is: their homepage says that beyond a phone number, HalloApp will "never collect, store or use any personal information"

But their privacy policy says something different.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by MexicanJoe »

saltedonion wrote: post #40

How are they going to address the problem of connection creep? (Over time the number of people you add to your friends network increase and cause context collapse)

They will hire you - there now it's your problem.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by nickff »

lelandfe wrote: post #43
vineyardmike wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're not selling your data, we're transferring it. To be fair, if they get purchased or otherwise change hands, you'd want the data transferred and not deleted or siloed so it can't be used for its intended purpose. > in which we are acquired by or merged with another company or we sell, liquidate, or transfer all or a portion of our business or assets. This reads to me like "if we or our product become part of so…

I don't see that as an "aggressive" interpretation of the words – that's the actual provision in the policy. There's a lot in that sentence, let's reduce it to the relevant stuff: > We may transfer your personal data to [third parties] in connection with... a corporate transaction or... we are acquired by or merged with another company or we sell, liquidate, or transfer all or a portion of our business or assets I do…

Making the privacy policy more specific than necessary will expose them to many frivolous lawsuits.
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