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Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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> CEO Tim Cook called in-person collaboration benefits "irreplaceable" and in an email, the executive team talked about the importance of "the serendipity that comes from bumping into colleagues" during in-person work.

Another extroverted MBA who doesn't understand why many engineers need big, unbroken chunks of silence & concentration to do great work.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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post #16

Stop whining and vote with your feet. If you're talented enough to work for Apple, there are plenty of other wonderful companies out there that will happily let you work remotely. Not every company needs to have the exact same policies on everything.

Some companies Apple poached engineers from now have fully remote working arrangements and are hiring. Just saying.

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The time theft of traffic, costs of fuel and wear and tear on your car, the cost of lunch if you don't pack a lunch. It all adds up when having to go back to the office. I hate that we had to return to the office because it was like getting a big pay cut. Even the 3 day a week thing, it's like what's the point? We can work from home obviously, what more does going in 3 times a week accomplish other than punish you, s…

Theft? Lol. Never get tired of hearing people making multiple 6 figures complain about their horrible life

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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> CEO Tim Cook called in-person collaboration benefits "irreplaceable" and in an email, the executive team talked about the importance of "the serendipity that comes from bumping into colleagues" during in-person work. Another extroverted MBA who doesn't understand why many engineers need big, unbroken chunks of silence & concentration to do great work.

Another engineer that doesn’t understand there are more jobs in a business than engineering.

I say this as someone who works from home and is a huge WFH advocate.

We need to stop assuming every role in an org revolves around “I stare at my screen for 9 hours do not interrupt me.”

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and will lead to a "younger, whiter, more male-dominated, more neuro-normative, more able-bodied" I mean, they're just asking you to come to the building 3 days a week.

Have these numbers improved significantly since covid? Have we seen increased diversity that this would roll back?

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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> CEO Tim Cook called in-person collaboration benefits "irreplaceable" and in an email, the executive team talked about the importance of "the serendipity that comes from bumping into colleagues" during in-person work. Another extroverted MBA who doesn't understand why many engineers need big, unbroken chunks of silence & concentration to do great work.

Tim Cook received a degree in industrial engineering before getting an MBA.

Not sure I would call him an extrovert either.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you, please, give your point of view on it? This is something I never thought about.

Is it really hard to imagine that it's easier to get to the office as an able bodied 22 year old than as a 45 year old wheelchair user? Or a 31 year old single parent?

No, but any physically impaired person will have a disadvantage in any physical environment. You cannot always lower the baseline to allow all persons to do the same in the same conditions.

By this reasoning, we should also close all physical stores, since wheelchair users have more difficulties to buy bread in person. If for the majority it is easier to go in person to buy bread, I think a better compromise is to adapt the shop to as many people as possible, while accepting that access will be still more difficult for some.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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> CEO Tim Cook called in-person collaboration benefits "irreplaceable" and in an email, the executive team talked about the importance of "the serendipity that comes from bumping into colleagues" during in-person work. Another extroverted MBA who doesn't understand why many engineers need big, unbroken chunks of silence & concentration to do great work.

Another engineer that doesn’t understand there are more jobs in a business than engineering. I say this as someone who works from home and is a huge WFH advocate. We need to stop assuming every role in an org revolves around “I stare at my screen for 9 hours do not interrupt me.”

Why not allow the flexibility to let both types of people do their best work though?

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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> CEO Tim Cook called in-person collaboration benefits "irreplaceable" and in an email, the executive team talked about the importance of "the serendipity that comes from bumping into colleagues" during in-person work. Another extroverted MBA who doesn't understand why many engineers need big, unbroken chunks of silence & concentration to do great work.

Another engineer that doesn’t understand there are more jobs in a business than engineering. I say this as someone who works from home and is a huge WFH advocate. We need to stop assuming every role in an org revolves around “I stare at my screen for 9 hours do not interrupt me.”

And those people are already in the office and were in the office during the height of Covid.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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In other words:

We blew five billion dollars on Apple Park. its a monument and a testament to the ineffable power and glory of our babel made manifest. You will attend this church of man in blessed reverence or you will find the cold streets at your feet.

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