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Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

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Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

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post #37

IMHO it's interesting that they continue to use CF cards in their pro bodies. Some expected the switch to smaller SD/SDHC/SDXC cards. But I wonder why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? I suppose this will hurt their pro body sales for five months. (The new body will not ship before March 2012.)

CF cards allow faster writes and can keep up with higher FPS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_memory_cards#Tech...

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#42
post #37

IMHO it's interesting that they continue to use CF cards in their pro bodies. Some expected the switch to smaller SD/SDHC/SDXC cards. But I wonder why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? I suppose this will hurt their pro body sales for five months. (The new body will not ship before March 2012.)

CF, while older, is significantly faster than SD. This is inherent in the number of busses in the design - SD communicates over a few wires, CF over many more, effectively increasing its bandwidth. My guess is that we will see CF until we SATA to mini SSDs or similar; it will take a real revolution in digital storage to dethrone the current king that is CF, SD will never be as fast.

This much leadtime on a prominent release is common, and right now the only camera that the 1D-X is going to cannibalize is the 1DmarkIV, which was already becoming quite scarce _before_ this announcement. Canon Direct lists it as out of stock, same with B&H. Adorama and Amazon seem to have a few each, though. Still, what sales are being hurt here? And mind you, we're talking about a relatively massive investment, you could buy ~10 T3i's for this sticker price, not an investment made lightly or made often - Canon probably doesn't mind waiting a few more months, and if you are in the market for something like this you are paying attention to the rumor mill anyways.

Just think, wouldn't you be pissed if they HADN'T given this much lead time, and you went and tracked down a now-rare 1D-IV, only to see this come out a few months later? I know I'd be quite irate.

Just my 2c...

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#43
post #5

With that ISO range, they've effectively eliminated the need for flash on 80%+ of photographs. Obviously, you'd still want flash for fill and studio situations, but sports photographers, and everyone else, even (maybe) concert photographers, can probably get away without! Amazing.

I use a Nikon D7000 - it's already quite capable of producing clean files up to 5000, 6400 at a pinch, and of getting perfectly sharp pictures of the cars running in night qualifying at Le Mans earlier this year (admittedly with pretty fast glass). No way I'm pointing a flash at a live race track at night, even if there was a way to make the results look even slightly natural.... So, IMHO, that milestone was crossed some time ago and has been in the high-end consumer space for at least a year now.

What this has primarily done for me is to make non-studio flash for fill and separation, depending on the situation - to control the subject to ambient ratio, in other words. I do still use it for other routine work, but only where it makes the resulting shot easier to take and get a high-quality result.

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#44
post #41
post #37

IMHO it's interesting that they continue to use CF cards in their pro bodies. Some expected the switch to smaller SD/SDHC/SDXC cards. But I wonder why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? I suppose this will hurt their pro body sales for five months. (The new body will not ship before March 2012.)

CF cards allow faster writes and can keep up with higher FPS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_memory_cards#Tech...

Which is a real pity. It's not a rugged interface that's designed for repeated loads and unloads but a miniaturisation of PCMCIA. The cards are more crushable than SD, the contacts can bend (happened to me...), the holes can get blocked. None of this is ideal when you need to make a quick card change to get that shot in front of you right now. Whereas SD with rolling ball contacts is about as close to indestructible as any physical interface is likely to get.

I understand why they're still making CF cameras, but I wish the effort were going into either optimising SD or producing a rugged, fast, generic replacement.

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#45
post #37

IMHO it's interesting that they continue to use CF cards in their pro bodies. Some expected the switch to smaller SD/SDHC/SDXC cards. But I wonder why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? I suppose this will hurt their pro body sales for five months. (The new body will not ship before March 2012.)

why they decided to announce the 1D X so early?

Because they are announcing something that looks likely to be a pro 35mm video camera on November...same day as Red releases Scarlet and Nikon releases...something.

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#46
Love the ISO range and the recording and transmitting abilities.

I'm still waiting for something with a high-dynamic range out of the box, preferably with wide spectrum coverage. I'd love to see how post-production goes with a little near-infrared and low-ultraviolet information in the mix.

This is a major step upwards, but I think I'm going to pass for now and wait another five years for the next major step upwards. The difference between shooting 12MP and 18MP and the difference between shooting what I have and ISO 204,800 just isn't enough for me to make the jump.

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#48
post #37

IMHO it's interesting that they continue to use CF cards in their pro bodies. Some expected the switch to smaller SD/SDHC/SDXC cards. But I wonder why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? I suppose this will hurt their pro body sales for five months. (The new body will not ship before March 2012.)

why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? Because they are announcing something that looks likely to be a pro 35mm video camera on November...same day as Red releases Scarlet and Nikon releases...something.

Red is finally setting a date for the Scarlet? Very cool.

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#49
The ISO range is nice–as is having a full frame on a fast camera–but there aren't many people who need 14 fps (sports & wildlife photographers).

Personally, I'll wait until the 5DmII successor arrives. I like the images and video it produces now and I don't need the tougher body of the 1 series.

Re: Canon announces EOS-1D X: full-frame 18MP, 14 fps, 204,800 top ISO, $6,800

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why they decided to announce the 1D X so early? Because they are announcing something that looks likely to be a pro 35mm video camera on November...same day as Red releases Scarlet and Nikon releases...something.

Red is finally setting a date for the Scarlet? Very cool.

Nov 3rd announcement, promised to ship shortly thereafter. Details always available here: http://reduser.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?31-Recon
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