Great service and deliverability but pricey if you are in the 125k emails / month bracket. I found Amazon SES to be just as good (or good enough) for just 12% of what postmark asks.
Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
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Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
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Give MailPace a try [0]. The creator seems like a great guy, and the service does what it says without any bs. I've been using it for a while now for side projects, and can only recommmend it. 0: https://mailpace.com/
Do they offer templates? I couldn't find any mention of it in their docs. As in, I write a template in mailpace.com with {{foobar}} placeholders, and make an API hit with the vars to replace.
MailPace founder here. No we don't, but it is in the roadmap for later this year.
However we did create some Tailwind based templates here that you can use manually:
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
#43Wildbit has sold the family business work-for-other-reasons-than-monetary-renumeration trope for a couple of decades. They've had some great products like Beanstalk and Deploybot and some total follies like Converyor. Employees had no ownership, products were often sold or put up for sale, and my understand is that compensation was middle of the road at best. It was 37Signals-lite. They seem like good people, but if…
> They've had some great products like Beanstalk and Deploybot and some total follies like Converyor.
.. is every product supposed to be a perfect fit and wild success?
> Employees had no ownership
To what end? To be paid in the event of an acquisition? That happened.
> products were often sold or put up for sale
In 21 years there was one product sold, including one you described as great. I'm not sure where you're getting this from.
> and my understand is that compensation was middle of the road at best
That understanding is incorrect.
> I wonder why there was no employee buyout.
There has been and likely will be more, just not Postmark.
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
#44Wildbit has sold the family business work-for-other-reasons-than-monetary-renumeration trope for a couple of decades. They've had some great products like Beanstalk and Deploybot and some total follies like Converyor. Employees had no ownership, products were often sold or put up for sale, and my understand is that compensation was middle of the road at best. It was 37Signals-lite. They seem like good people, but if…
> Wildbit has sold the family business work-for-other-reasons-than-monetary-renumeration trope for a couple of decades. I didn't realize this was a pattern with them before now (selling out). I was using Postmark specifically because it was (I thought) a sort of mom and pop type business. There are cheaper and better options, but sending emails was always such a small expense for me that I didn't care. I don't mean t…
It's not a pattern, the original comment is nonsense: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31247296#31250037
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
#45> was a team with great empathy and values, and a true desire to make this an acquisition that served all the human constituents as best as possible. Every acquisition announcement almost paint the acquirer as an amazing company, that care deeply about the mission of the acquired company and that is aligned with its vision. But 99% of the time it is false. This is especially false when the founders don't even stay in…
This is the game right? Build something people need, and ideally situate such that a larger player with deep pockets goes "yes, this" and cashes you out. Much like the "Thank you for smoking" film trope, you can't take the money AND call the press for the expose on how dirty the whole thing is. I'm reminded of the South Park founders more or less laughing "yeah we sold out" because why wouldn't you? Everyone has a number (unless you're a martyr, bless you, or already fuck-you-money). That number turns out to be much lower than you might expect when the real deal knocks on your door.
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
#46Extremely mixed feelings on this one. On one hand, it's awesome Wildbit was able to sell Postmark on their terms. To be able to build something, make money, and then walk away when you want is a huge accomplishment. Hats off to them. On the other hand, the reason I always chose Postmark over Sendgrid, MailChimp, et cetera, even though they were much smaller, is because they seriously cared about their customers. Supp…
Same here. I saw the email this morning and my heart sunk. I know I'm not a big customer (I'm on the lower tier plan, $10/mo) but Postmark was a rock solid part of my setup and now I'm not sure how long that will last or when/if my plan will be seen as a waste of time/money. Postmark was so incredibly refreshing after having been exposed to a number of other products in the same space. I'm glad for the team but apprehensive about the future.
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
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Hey there, Rian here (Head of Product at Postmark). We definitely understand the "mixed feelings" response for an acquisition like this. A couple things I want to reiterate: * The entire Postmark team is joining ActiveCampaign, and we are going to continue to operate the way we have always operated for the foreseeable future. That includes the support team you love! * We definitely don't plan to change any of the thi…
> The entire Postmark team is joining ActiveCampaign, and we are going to continue to operate the way we have always operated for the foreseeable future. That includes the support team you love! While I appreciate you saying this, you have to have in mind that just some 6 months down the line it won't be you calling the shots. The business priorities will be determined by other people and they can and will command yo…
Exactly. This is a case of "He who pays the piper calls the tune."
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
#48> was a team with great empathy and values, and a true desire to make this an acquisition that served all the human constituents as best as possible. Every acquisition announcement almost paint the acquirer as an amazing company, that care deeply about the mission of the acquired company and that is aligned with its vision. But 99% of the time it is false. This is especially false when the founders don't even stay in…
What can they really say, honestly? "Hey, we sold out to the highest bidder. No clue how this is going to go, but we felt the time was right to cash out. Bye!"
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
#49Wow, that's a surprise! I love Postmark and I am using it for all my products. This kind of feels wrong though, hopefully it won't go downhill from here.
https://smtp2go.com maybe? Just discovered them the other day but yet to give it a whirl. Just when I was starting to double down on Postmark, they did this. Not blaming them, but we all know this is going to go badly (as a previous Active Campaign user).
Re: Postmark has been acquired by ActiveCampaign
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Yeah, I believe when some says this, they actually mean it. They just don't have the power to ensure it actually happens.
Oh I am sure they 100% believe it. I wonder why people always forget about the power structures. I guess that's what happens when people work what they love and money is just a positive side effect... as opposed to this being exactly the opposite for 99% of the other population.
I think you often forget about this because promises are made that they won't touch anything. So you're being genuine when you say "nothing is going to change" because that's what leadership promised.
Trying to maintain this is a major fight that generally gets you fired or you end up leaving out of frustration.
It's hard to see if when you come in with business like Postmark that is loved by its customers because you think "We're a great business and we know how to do things, why would you want to blow that up?" but you need to remember that the acquirer (ActiveCampaign) is looking out for themselves (ActiveCampaign) first.