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Post by burner556 »

dehrmann wrote: post #31
scelerat wrote: post #26

For you kiddos and newbs to startups/corporations out there, nothing anyone says is worth anything unless it's in a legally binding contract. When your boss says, "your department is super important to our company," that is effectively meaningless. I take it back; it has meaning: it means you should wonder why the boss has raised the issue at all.

This is true, and the what the former employee tweeted was somewhat unprofessional, despite the fact that it feels like the rug was pulled out from under you.

Hey this is just the new progressive playbook, it's OK to hate on big corps and "billionaires". Check out what this game producer tweeted about her own CEO RE her own unreleased game: https://i.redd.it/yu9im5p38ld81.jpg Unprofessionalism for miles.

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Post by dehrmann »

burner556 wrote: post #41
dehrmann wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true, and the what the former employee tweeted was somewhat unprofessional, despite the fact that it feels like the rug was pulled out from under you.

Hey this is just the new progressive playbook, it's OK to hate on big corps and "billionaires". Check out what this game producer tweeted about her own CEO RE her own unreleased game: https://i.redd.it/yu9im5p38ld81.jpg Unprofessionalism for miles.

I do hear that hate a lot. People will sneak in "billionaire" and "big business" like it's an inherently bad thing, and the audience is supposed to just agree, without any further explanation. Not that those groups can't be bad, but there are absolutely small businesses with poor ethics and large companies that are good corporate citizens.

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Post by JBits »

WisNorCan wrote: post #27

The most perplexing thing about Netflix is that even though they have a reputation for hiring the best, I can’t think of a single way that the experience is better than Disney, HBO or Apple TV. And this is after 25 years of investing in technology.

For me, Netflix's UI works pretty well while the Disney+ UI is an exercise in frustration. With Disney+, watching the credits required clicking on just the right bit and there's no obvious way to go from the episode itself to the episode list.

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Post by erguiqewrugi »

lampshades wrote: post #2

Interesting that they're laying off writers seeing as the American public has been pretty unhappy with Netflix quality (whether the actual content or the idealogical pushes). I know a lot of people personally that cancelled their Netflix accounts after Cuties and even more for similar reasons as time continued on. I wonder how much of their subscriber-ship was impacted due to things like this and if it's a non-minor…

I am virtually certain you have not watched Mignonnes. It is really quite good, and treats its subject matter with care. You have fallen for propaganda. Just watch it. It isn't long and I promise you won't wind up scarred for life. If you hate it, at least you will have come to that decision yourself.

Until you watch the film, I couldn't possibly care what you have to say about it.

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#46

Post by fragmede »

JBits wrote: post #44
WisNorCan wrote: post #27

The most perplexing thing about Netflix is that even though they have a reputation for hiring the best, I can’t think of a single way that the experience is better than Disney, HBO or Apple TV. And this is after 25 years of investing in technology.

For me, Netflix's UI works pretty well while the Disney+ UI is an exercise in frustration. With Disney+, watching the credits required clicking on just the right bit and there's no obvious way to go from the episode itself to the episode list.

Same with HBO. Their UX needs a bunch of work and it just makes me miss Netflix. But you gotta go where the content is.

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Post by bombcar »

JBits wrote: post #44
WisNorCan wrote: post #27

The most perplexing thing about Netflix is that even though they have a reputation for hiring the best, I can’t think of a single way that the experience is better than Disney, HBO or Apple TV. And this is after 25 years of investing in technology.

For me, Netflix's UI works pretty well while the Disney+ UI is an exercise in frustration. With Disney+, watching the credits required clicking on just the right bit and there's no obvious way to go from the episode itself to the episode list.

Disney+ is seriously confused about credits - at times it instantly minimizes and threatens you with the next episode/movie (often when there is still “stuff” happening) and other times it makes you sit through literally ten minutes of credits in every language known to man and some unknown before advancing to the next.

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Post by bombcar »

dharmab wrote: post #36
PolygonSheep wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now that digital is ‘refragmenting’ it would be funny if the red disks came back to get around all these silos. I'm not an IP law expert, but does anyone know why fragmentation isn't such a problem with music? You never hear someone complaining that they have to subscribe to eight different music streaming services to hear all the popular songs. It seems the big music streaming services all have pretty much all the…

There are only three companies that control distribution of almost all popular music. (Universal, Sony and Warner) Once you get outside of artists and genres published by these four (e.g. smaller foreign artists, very small niche genres, small indie artists) streaming options decrease.

I suspect Apple snapped up some very long rights early on which means they’re not going to bother trying to compete directly as they’d only have their own songs.

Same way that a bunch of studios waited for their Netflix/Prime contracts to wind down before opening their own streaming service.

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Post by WisNorCan »

dehrmann wrote: post #30
WisNorCan wrote: post #27

The most perplexing thing about Netflix is that even though they have a reputation for hiring the best, I can’t think of a single way that the experience is better than Disney, HBO or Apple TV. And this is after 25 years of investing in technology.

Don't forget that Netflix was early to the streaming game. The others likely hired a few key Netflix people on the tech side to avoid having to relearn their lessons. The others (except for Apple) were also earlier to the content space, so their back catalogs are better.

That is true. But you would expect that they would have found something really substantive to show after 25 years of investing in technology.

I am not sure what the lesson is. But something seems to have gone really wrong for Netflix. Not just on the content side, but also with their technology investments.

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Post by smugma »

PolygonSheep wrote: post #34
mensetmanusman wrote: post #28

I wonder if Netflix should leverage same day delivery and start doing more physical copies again. Now that digital is ‘refragmenting’ it would be funny if the red disks came back to get around all these silos.

> Now that digital is ‘refragmenting’ it would be funny if the red disks came back to get around all these silos. I'm not an IP law expert, but does anyone know why fragmentation isn't such a problem with music? You never hear someone complaining that they have to subscribe to eight different music streaming services to hear all the popular songs. It seems the big music streaming services all have pretty much all the…

Music streaming could have gone the fragmented route. The major services were doing all sorts of exclusives. Two things stopped it (the first being it was bad business, the second being the mail in the coffin):

1. Exclusives were very expensive and not linked to growing subscribers. This is true within the other services but can be seen publicly by the failure of Tidal.

2. Frank Ocean screwed Universal Music (well played), resulting in the CEO declaring an end to exclusives [0].

[0]: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/frank-ocean-endle...

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