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Nowadays panels are cheap enough that if you want more power than you get with them fixed in place, you just add more panels.
Are panels cheaper than the servo motor & Arduino used in this tool? Not to mention that at mass produced scales chip costs are usually 1/5 the price of an Arduino. What if every panel used these tools, we could increase the amount of power we gather from solar.
I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
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Are panels cheaper than the servo motor & Arduino used in this tool? Not to mention that at mass produced scales chip costs are usually 1/5 the price of an Arduino. What if every panel used these tools, we could increase the amount of power we gather from solar.
Yes. A 400w watt panel is 250$. When you account for labor and cost of all. The parts for a moving panel that can withstand high wind speeds…Placing more fixed panels is cheaper.
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Yes, here is one example of such a site https://gml.noaa.gov/grad/solcalc/ Here is how they do it. https://gml.noaa.gov/grad/solcalc/calcdetails.html
> due to variations in atmospheric composition, temperature, pressure and conditions, observed values may vary from calculations. Isn't this exactly the problem that can be better solved using real power data instead of values expected from theory ?
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I'm more and more convinced of this. Control theory appears to be like lightsabers, "a refined weapon for a more civilized age". It's really unfortunately that the controls literature is so opaque.
>> Control theory is better if you know what you’re doing. The "if you know what you’re doing" here does not refer to the ability to understand control theory. It means that if you know the underlying dynamics, there is mathematically nothing better than controlling those dynamics. Flying a plane, oscillating a circuit, etc. are all things we can do very well without ML because we have exact models of the physical ph…
There is a surprising amount of structure imposed by the assumption that the dynamics are differential equations, even if you don't know what the differential equations look like. As a consequence, adaptive control laws generally converge a lot faster (like, orders of magnitude faster) than MDP-based RL approaches on the same system being controlled.
The other advantage is that you can prove stability and in some cases have an idea of your performance margin with control theory. THis is important if you eg want your system to receive any sort of accreditation or if you want to fit it into the systems engineering of a more complex system. There's a reason autopilots don't use RL, and it isn't that RL can't be made to work. It's that you can't rigorously prove how robust the RL policy is to changes in the airplane dynamics.
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
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Are panels cheaper than the servo motor & Arduino used in this tool? Not to mention that at mass produced scales chip costs are usually 1/5 the price of an Arduino. What if every panel used these tools, we could increase the amount of power we gather from solar.
Yes. A 400w watt panel is 250$. When you account for labor and cost of all. The parts for a moving panel that can withstand high wind speeds…Placing more fixed panels is cheaper.
Wait, panels are that cheap? Could you point me to a good place to buy them?
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
#46I'll just leave this here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL9PcGu_xrA&t=174s
Nowadays panels are cheap enough that if you want more power than you get with them fixed in place, you just add more panels.
Better to add more panels.
A better way to ensure more power output is to have a set of panels with a small battery back to automate cooling of the panels and cleaning of the panels.
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Yes. A 400w watt panel is 250$. When you account for labor and cost of all. The parts for a moving panel that can withstand high wind speeds…Placing more fixed panels is cheaper.
> A 400w watt panel is 250$. Wait, panels are that cheap? Could you point me to a good place to buy them?
I don't know what, where, or how many you want, but these are by the pallet (~30ea) and about $6500. You can get much cheaper with used ones.
You get conservatively ~3hr of effective peak power per day (so a 400W panel will give you 1200Wh). You also need a DC converter for these to charge a battery or go to AC. Of course you'll want to mount them at the correct angle with a good view of the sun.
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Yes. A 400w watt panel is 250$. When you account for labor and cost of all. The parts for a moving panel that can withstand high wind speeds…Placing more fixed panels is cheaper.
> A 400w watt panel is 250$. Wait, panels are that cheap? Could you point me to a good place to buy them?
But used panels, at 80% rated output, are even cheaper, as low as $150. A few of those will fail, so you keep spares. They are often repairable in a few minutes if you are not afraid of a soldering iron, e.g. replace a diode or MOSFET.
Any roofer will put in mounting brackets, and almost any electrician is happy to put in the panel.
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Nowadays panels are cheap enough that if you want more power than you get with them fixed in place, you just add more panels.
Are panels cheaper than the servo motor & Arduino used in this tool? Not to mention that at mass produced scales chip costs are usually 1/5 the price of an Arduino. What if every panel used these tools, we could increase the amount of power we gather from solar.
Also, installation of the panels currently costs more than panels. They don't say (or I didn't find) how efficient the optimal fixed mount is, but the agent starts at 80%, so assume some fixed position is 80% of optimal. They increase that to 96%, so they reduce the number of solar panels by about 13%. If the installation labor cost increases more than ~26% because of the servo mount, then the servo mount hardware and frame would need to be cheaper than fixed mounts for it to break even. Similarly, the amount of aluminum being consumed by solar panel installions is non-trivial, and the movable frame is likely to increase that.
However, this is still a cool hobby project with a nice writeup.
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Yes. A 400w watt panel is 250$. When you account for labor and cost of all. The parts for a moving panel that can withstand high wind speeds…Placing more fixed panels is cheaper.
> A 400w watt panel is 250$. Wait, panels are that cheap? Could you point me to a good place to buy them?
https://www.remodelingcosts.org/solar-panel-costs-increase-s...
That includes labor, mounting hardware, inverters and grid tie in. It also assumes high efficiency panels.
Watch out before buying older technology (lower efficiency) panels. Some have significant efficiency losses per degree Celsius increase in temperature.