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Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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> we haven't been able to deploy for over two weeks What is stopping you? Are you unable to type `git push heroku master`?

That's fine as a solo developer – but what about a team with CI pipelines etc?

can't you put that in the ci pipeline

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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I don't know if I'm seeing things, but Heroku seems to be more expensive than GCP. I get a 8 GB RAM Postgres instance for 200$ on Heroku. On GCP I get a 4CPU 26GB RAM Postgres instance for 280$ (Cloud SQL). What's the USP Heroku provides?

They were early in the devops game, and provided an easy way to run things without having to deal with hardware, networks, scaling, operating systems, maintenance, etc... yourself. Nowadays I think they are no longer running on innovation, but on inertia.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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I'm historically a huge Heroku defender. Been using it for a decade now, and my company still uses it despite being quite large and getting a lot of traffic. It's always been a great product and the early Salesforce days they DID ship a ton of new stuff and improve rapidly (despite a narrative that they didn't). Like, it got REALLY GOOD the years after acquisition. That being said... it's insane that we haven't been…

> we haven't been able to deploy for over two weeks What is stopping you? Are you unable to type `git push heroku master`?

Heroku's github integration has been down for 2 weeks

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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Warning: There are a couple people in this thread mentioning products that they're investors in. I won't call them out expressly, but I think people should be direct about their incentive alignments. It's disingenuous and borders on astroturfing IMO. Background: Founder of Railway.app here. There's a lot of these companies popping up that offer a "Heroku replacement", and once you dive in, you realize you have to pay…

They’ve been shilling their R•nder and P•rter services on every single thread about this Heroku incident, and it’s frankly a problem that HN moderators should address.

It's not just them sadly. I think the only one who I've seen who isn't guilty of this is Fly.io.

They build cool shit, they blog about their cool shit, because it's cool shit.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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They’ve been shilling their R•nder and P•rter services on every single thread about this Heroku incident, and it’s frankly a problem that HN moderators should address.

What should HN do? People are free to downvote it until it's dead. That seems a more democratic way to handle it.

I'm such a HN normie does HN even have a downvote button? I can't find it

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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What should HN do? People are free to downvote it until it's dead. That seems a more democratic way to handle it.

I'm such a HN normie does HN even have a downvote button? I can't find it

You need 501 karma points to downvote!

Here's a list of all hidden HN features: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#downvo...

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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So this is more of a sales pitch for Porter - which is fine, I didn't know it existed and these are pretty compelling reasons to try it instead of Heroku.

For me - the real selling point is that yes, Heroku is expensive - but the cost of a competent devops engineer is much, much, much higher. So unless it's literally impossible to do something with Heroku that needs a specialized skillset - the "devops as a service" part of Heroku is worth every penny in my opinion.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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As someone that was there at Heroku after the acquisition, I don't think you can state that since the acquisition it's been consistently downhill. There isn't much debate that things have stagnated in the last 5-7 years which is a longer story on why probably. Some examples of innovation that happened and were launched after the acquisition: buildpacks (at the time of acquisition Heroku was still Ruby only), Heroku P…

https://scalingo.com/ is nice too

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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As someone that was there at Heroku after the acquisition, I don't think you can state that since the acquisition it's been consistently downhill. There isn't much debate that things have stagnated in the last 5-7 years which is a longer story on why probably. Some examples of innovation that happened and were launched after the acquisition: buildpacks (at the time of acquisition Heroku was still Ruby only), Heroku P…

We're big users of Heroku Connect, which has been an incredible product for our use.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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Warning: There are a couple people in this thread mentioning products that they're investors in. I won't call them out expressly, but I think people should be direct about their incentive alignments. It's disingenuous and borders on astroturfing IMO. Background: Founder of Railway.app here. There's a lot of these companies popping up that offer a "Heroku replacement", and once you dive in, you realize you have to pay…

Would you be willing to go over our Heroku environment to see if we'd be a good fit for Railway? I can't tell from the demo if you have things like automated backups, rollbacks, workers, add-ons for logging/monitoring/performance/etc. Those are all tablestakes for us. But Railway certainly looks great.
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