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What was the exact part DMCA'ed? Was it documentation? I am curious also here about opensource. What was the license if any? Also, which license allows you to copy (and modify) for your own use, whether personal or not to reproduce?
https://web.archive.org/web/20220114132753/https://docs.symp...
Hello, I'm Vivek, founder/CEO of HackerRank. Our intention with this initiative is to takedown plagiarized code snippets or solutions to company assessments. This was definitely an unintended consequence. We are looking into it ASAP and also going to do an RCA to ensure this doesn't happen again. Sorry, everyone! EDIT: update here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092085
I’m curious - why even bother? What will you do if someone torrents the solutions? Focus on figuring out another solution. Leetcode for instance puts the solutions out there.
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I’m curious - why even bother? What will you do if someone torrents the solutions? Focus on figuring out another solution. Leetcode for instance puts the solutions out there.
It's not an either or. We need to do the takedown AND figure out a way where we can do things like randomizing questions but preserving the integrity of it to ensure a fair evaluation, etc.
There are solutions to most questions on leetcode on GitHub as we speak.
I don’t get it. If your assessment is designed that knowing the solution ruins it then your assessing process is broken.
I’ve literally showed candidates the solution to leetcode questions and they still don’t get it. Trying to remove solutions seems like a poor use of effort imho.
Hello, I'm Vivek, founder/CEO of HackerRank. Our intention with this initiative is to takedown plagiarized code snippets or solutions to company assessments. This was definitely an unintended consequence. We are looking into it ASAP and also going to do an RCA to ensure this doesn't happen again. Sorry, everyone! EDIT: update here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092085
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There's also an argument to be made that this is on HackerRank. Just because they're using a contractor to do the dirty work doesn't excuse them from responsibility for this sloppiness.
Especially given that the false takedown of the PHP docs dates back to January. Issuing false takedowns against organizations whose code you use for free is a pretty bad look. (It's also a pretty crummy product, I used to use it as an interviewer and am glad I no longer have to.)
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Realistically speaking, you’d still need to enforce breaches of whatever license you choose but most open-source projects don’t have the resources to pursue those cases. Maybe there’s a case for a consortium of open-source projects that can pool its resources and serve as an insurance policy to fight back against license violations or malicious/stupid DMCA takedowns.
We have so many organizations but in the last 2 decades nobody has thought of creating colloborative legal fund and insurance system to combat and in many cases enforce licensing violation. Open source projects should have a kind of union of their own. Then again I wonder if it would ever be possible because corporate money has became a key donation source and in many cases many OS projects themselves have become cor…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy
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We have so many organizations but in the last 2 decades nobody has thought of creating colloborative legal fund and insurance system to combat and in many cases enforce licensing violation. Open source projects should have a kind of union of their own. Then again I wonder if it would ever be possible because corporate money has became a key donation source and in many cases many OS projects themselves have become cor…
There are organizations that help with license enforcement, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy
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There's also an argument to be made that this is on HackerRank. Just because they're using a contractor to do the dirty work doesn't excuse them from responsibility for this sloppiness.
Especially given that the false takedown of the PHP docs dates back to January. Issuing false takedowns against organizations whose code you use for free is a pretty bad look. (It's also a pretty crummy product, I used to use it as an interviewer and am glad I no longer have to.)
I apologize in advance for the profanity. This really pissed me off. FUCK you HackerRank, for even entertaining the notion of litigating open source projects at scale for no good reason. FUCK you for taking down the the documentation for a harmless open source symbolic mathematics engine without any justification that I can see. What content of your shitty ranking company could SymPy possibly have infringed on? Also…
AFAIK, they're legally required to take down material as soon as they receive a DMCA notice or else lose their safe harbor status.
I apologize in advance for the profanity. This really pissed me off. FUCK you HackerRank, for even entertaining the notion of litigating open source projects at scale for no good reason. FUCK you for taking down the the documentation for a harmless open source symbolic mathematics engine without any justification that I can see. What content of your shitty ranking company could SymPy possibly have infringed on? Also…
Fuck the DMCA, not GitHub! AFAIK, they're legally required to take down material as soon as they receive a DMCA notice or else lose their safe harbor status. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down
Thank you for the link.