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The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by jokethrowaway »

solenoidalslide wrote: post #27
josephcsible wrote: post #24

I'd totally use a more open-source phone OS, if only there weren't communications and banking apps that check to make sure you're running an unmodified major manufacturer's OS, and refuse to run if they find any evidence that you aren't.

Which major banking and communications companies refuse to let you access their services via browser? This is when we absolutely need to name and shame.

After the nth round of european regulations, plenty of banks started requiring a smartphone app installed on Android or iOS as 2 factor authentication

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by josephcsible »

fartcannon wrote: post #39
josephcsible wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snapchat refuses to let you access their services at all via browser. And most banks offer you a restricted set of functionality via browser, e.g., no taking pictures of checks to deposit (in fact, I can't think of any banks that do let you do that via browser).

You have to do the open source phone first, and help convince others, before the banks and snapchats will support you, not the other way around. It's normally a small sacrifice, but the payoff is fundamental to a free future.

You make it sound like the banks and Snapchat would have to do work for them to support me, when the opposite is true. The community already has compatibility layers that work for most apps, but those companies go out of their way to do extra work to make sure their apps don't work in them.

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by chunk_waffle »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #4

On a very related topic I received my Purism phone recently. Worked great... once. Now it's bricked after recharging. I haven't had time to reach out for support and certainly need to do that, but after waiting a very long time for the phone I'm too demoralized to make this a priority. Perhaps I should've bought the Pinephone, or installed Lineage on my old pixel... but time is a scarce commodity.

Its sad how utterly terrible the Pusrim phones are, can they even make a _phone calls_ reliably?

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by _rdvw »

nimbius wrote: post #3

tell ya what i really wanna see from pinephone: AGPS lockdown. Currently ive learned from HN there are numerous 3GPP protocols that provide direct, clandestine monitoring of the GPS location of the phone. the feature lives unchallenged in the firmware, so if you can give me a phone that cannot report its GPS data to the carrier without my knowledge, id be ever grateful.

My DivestOS:

  - removes most Qualcomm location blobs
  - removes carrier OMA-DM blobs
  - doesn't send IMEI to SUPL server
  - only allows SUPL override when an emergency call is active
  - disables A-GPS MSA mode
  - and shows a notification when location is requested via SUPL

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by imchillyb »

josephcsible wrote: post #31
solenoidalslide wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which major banking and communications companies refuse to let you access their services via browser? This is when we absolutely need to name and shame.

Snapchat refuses to let you access their services at all via browser. And most banks offer you a restricted set of functionality via browser, e.g., no taking pictures of checks to deposit (in fact, I can't think of any banks that do let you do that via browser).

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Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by fsflover »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #4

On a very related topic I received my Purism phone recently. Worked great... once. Now it's bricked after recharging. I haven't had time to reach out for support and certainly need to do that, but after waiting a very long time for the phone I'm too demoralized to make this a priority. Perhaps I should've bought the Pinephone, or installed Lineage on my old pixel... but time is a scarce commodity.

Ask for help on the Purism forum. The community there is really helpful: https://forums.puri.sm.

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Post by scarface74 »

benlivengood wrote: post #34
scarface74 wrote: post #15

So a 2015 iPhone 6S runs the latest version of iOS. A 2013 iPhone 5s is still getting security updates. A 2011 iPhone 4s doesn’t support LTE and soon won’t be able to connect to any network. Verizon is shutting down their CDMA network as is Sprint. So how does open source make my life better? From a hardware side, why wouldn’t I just take my phone to any number of places to get the battery replaced?

Why is your cellular modem wedded inseparably to your pocket computing device? I think that's the bigger picture.

Speaking of “bigger picture” how much larger is the phone going to be without the integration?

Even Google had to prematurely abandon support for one of its phones because it couldn’t get driver support for a cell phone chip.

On that same note, cellular standards are a minefield of patents to the point that even when Apple starts producing its own cellular chips, it will still owe Qualcomm patent fees.

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