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Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by godelski »

colpabar wrote: post #36
godelski wrote: post #22

I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, b…

>If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Wow, you weren't kidding. I was at least expecting it to differ from fox by showing different kinds of crime, but nope - subway shootings in NYC was the first thing I saw. Who the h…

Yeah I grew up in a household that watched Fox. I saw CNN shift hard in this direction with the pandemic so shifted towards more neutral tone sources like Reuters and AP. It's honestly disgusting to me to see so much fear based content.

And to be fair, I did see some non-fear based content. But the vast majority was and even some of the non-fear based stuff (maybe, I'm literally judging a show by its cover) still had those dark tones/style of posters.

I cannot stress this enough. People don't watch news for the entertainment value (even if that does increase viewership, that's not why they are watching it).

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by jaywalk »

tootie wrote: post #31
lampshades wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with maybe a slight left leaning bias As someone with a conservative leaning bias, I would consider PBS to have a very strong left (whatever that means) leaning bias. I guess it depends on your start point.

It has been said the reality has a liberal bias.

...by people who have a liberal bias.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by TheCondor »

lampshades wrote: post #26
TooKool4This wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An hour of PBS Newshour a day. Very much fact based reporting with maybe a slight left leaning bias. Digest it and move on and live your life. Besides that, I just turn off the news spigot. I'm slowly coming to the realization that watching news was kind of becoming my version of watching reality TV shows. There is of course value in being informed but outside of that, a single person can't meaningfully take action o…

> with maybe a slight left leaning bias As someone with a conservative leaning bias, I would consider PBS to have a very strong left (whatever that means) leaning bias. I guess it depends on your start point.

Is there anything concrete you can say about that bias and PBS News Hour?

Or is it more just general "they're publicly funded and the left supports that" sort of bias? Are they disproportionately covering or ignoring issues due to that bias?

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by rayiner »

mountainriver wrote: post #3

I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Man you missed CNN in the early 1990s. I used to watch Larry King interviews with my dad. He was so normal and direct and human.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by no_butterscotch »

mdoms wrote: post #16

CNN has spent the last 6 or 7 years transforming itself from a credible news organisation into an activist organisation. Of course this has a lower ceiling on subscriber numbers.

Yup same reason I don't know watch em anymore. I realized I needed to drink their Koolaid, which isn't how news should work.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by uoaei »

gnicholas wrote: post #40
uoaei wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Not-red/not-blue agenda" is different from "no-agenda".

Every news source has an agenda. GP was asking for news sources that are not afraid to criticize political parties, and they are not. They even have a range of libertarian views, and they criticize each other/the libertarian party.

There are plenty others too. Many go further, to criticize corporations and even bare narratives! Below is a small sample, and none are aligned with any party in particular.

Center for Public Integrity

Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR)

Novara Media (UK-based)

scheerpost.org (Chris Hedges's main outlet)

Citations Needed

Truthout.org

In These Times

Evonomics

naked capitalism

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by rayiner »

xkbarkar wrote: post #6
mountainriver wrote: post #3

I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

My wife listens to Bloomberg or CNBC. It’s news for rich people who want an accurate analysis of reality because they have money in the market. E.g. I listened to some segments just before the recent Virginia/New Jersey elections and it was just the facts, not teeth gnashing about how the wrong side might win.
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