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Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Well, nobody can fault them for not being ambitious enough.

Yet, I do.

Why? Don't we have enough unambitious things to go around? I mean - as long as the project owner realizes the probability of failure is high.....

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because "reusable rockets" got laughed at by the existing space industry doesn't mean every laughable idea is secretly feasible. "My new database will make building a Dyson sphere easy" is a slightly... loftier claim than "we can probably land rockets and reuse them".

I see what you mean, but I wasn't referring to Space X accomplishments but its ambitions. The "we can probably land rockets and reuse them" is what it delivered so far, the claimed ambitions (laughable or not) are about making humanity interplanetary.

The number of steps between "I wrote a quirky database" and "I built a Dyson sphere" are substantially more numerous than there are between "I got reusable rocketry working cost-effectively" and "I used those rockets to put people on Mars".

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Andrew here, the founder of HyperC. Thank you very much for your feedback, and especially for your attention and time to look at the note.

Our current and today's focus is, of course, not to send the sattelites to the sun to build the Dyson sphere but rather to automate sending average commodities from China to Amazon FBA. Everything else comes after.

And you're right, the supply chain mess isn't caused by the absense of tech (although this does contribute) but rather by the "dark" forces in the logistics world that would prefer to keep things messy and hard to trace. The entire logistics thing has historically always been a shady business. But big data is coming for the dark guys.

So the immediate plan is to build the model of the "black box" of logistics by analyzing the data we can actually collect, then use the combination of technology and HyperC's reputation-leveraged optimal financing offers to beat the shady schemes out of the market. That itself could be overly ambitious, but this is what I believe is right.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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A tad ambitious, missing a few intermediary steps. Try solving logistics problems for say… a sandwich shop… before going on about “all of e-commerce” much less a Dyson sphere. It’s not really obvious that this is at all necessary or the bottleneck. Or that running a planned economy ruled by AI is a goal to celebrate.

We're starting with small Amazon sellers. And it's just what I believe is right, the technology must take over the logistics and stop the supply chain gangs from thrashing the planet with waste. We aren't getting anywhere with the status quo.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Sadly, from a lot of experience in tech, one man projects that have "build self-aware AI" as a step in their roadmap have a tendency to underdeliver.

It s a crypto company, this increases the scam factor a tad.

We are not a crypto company. Moreover, being as clean and open as possible is the only way to win the battle of the good guys vs. the bad guys in supply chain.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Who knew an infinitely recursive self learning true AI was just a few python files away that haven't been updated in 5 months?

We're a tiny team that so far only got the confirmation that it works. The focus right now is to make the first batch of customers happy, and continue to spend effort on the metaplanner.

Btw, I advise you to take a look at the metaplanner's code. It's the definition of the planning task for the planner. So that the planner can learn to solve the planner's (it's own) task. It is leveraging the HyperC core that sits in a separate repository in the same github org.

I heard the approach was circulating in the AI planning academic circles but no one had put it together as many academically-uninteresting details needed to be cared for first. That's exactly what we did.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Imagine Asgardia building a Dyson swarm, owning it, and then becoming a greedy landlord (swarmlord?). When you can’t afford the rent, the yeet you into space with a trebuchet.

HyperC is not affiliated with Asgardia aside from that one of the HyperC's founders being a long-term supporter

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Nice intro video on what may be realistically required to build a Dyson sphere: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pP44EPBMb8A By Kurzgesagt, all their videos are excellent and informed by the literature.

There will of course never be a Dyson Sphere, or anything even vaguely reminiscent of it. Instead, long before anything of such a scale would be conceivable, we will have hydrogen-boron fusion for unlimited energy, and moved industrial operations out to the Kuiper Belt, where the truly valuable commodity -- cold -- is abundant. Suns and planets are for extreme rock-banging primitives.

Alternatively we could merge with the machines and all go virtual. But I am to believe that part of the humanity will remain explorers and will want to go beyond our star. That's where the physics kicks in. There simply isn't enough energy that can be mined and extracted from minerals.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe OP is referring to the impacts of climate change rendering farming unsustainable.

I'm thinking he's talking about running out of phosphate [0]. Phosphate is a critical plant nutrient and mining it has been essential in increasing yields in the last century - it's literally sustained the population growth. The known supplies are running low, and it washes out of the soil on an annual basis so needs to be replenished to keep up yields — or we need to find other sustainable sources. The 50 years corr…

The overarching problem with the statement is soil is so different everywhere. And managed differently everywhere. You can't just make a blanket statement. If I was going to make a blanket statement I would be more concerned with erosion than nutrition because soil is an ecosystem that can be repaired. But if it is gone, then that's a different story.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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First enhance on-earth supply chain efficiency. Then worry about space. Purchasing and sales departments really should be eviscerated and replaced with semi-autonomous systems in most cases. Get that done and you'll have more than enough money and cred to tackle space. My ideas @ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/globalcitizen/ifex-protoco...

My thoughts :) Get the mess solved here first. As a comment on your ideas - there are extremely powerful forces that would oppose any openness in logistics as it's filled with shady gangs. We need to act together to beat them off the market.
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