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Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by striking »

duped wrote: post #35
cmeacham98 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they support hibernation? I assume the answer here has to be "because it's a PITA to enable", but as far as I know no distro does this correctly by default on an encrypted drive.

Because it's a pain in the ass for what should be the default, especially if you want to use it on a laptop and not have the battery die overnight.

Some argue full disk encryption should be the default. Others argue hibernation should be the default. Here they appear to be in conflict, and that the former was prioritized.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by selfhifive »

philliphaydon wrote: post #23
user3939382 wrote: post #6

> The issue that makes us resist the idea of simply disabling updates altogether is that very often that will mean never update rather than update at someone’s discretion, and then we’re getting back to some of the problems that got us here in the first place. I’m sorry, who owns the machine here?

Isn’t this also the of the main reasons the linux community hates windows. Because windows has a habit of forcing updates and reboots.

The linux community isn't a big fan of Canonical. Everyone starts with Ubuntu, distro hops, installs Debian or Arch configured according to them and tries to bring Ubuntu back from the dark side.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by secondcoming »

philliphaydon wrote: post #27
rubyist5eva wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just switched to Fedora about a week ago because I was getting fed up with user hostile Ubuntu bs, I like it a lot.

I feel like people who use fedora swear by it. What DE do you use? I prefer KDE but donno if it’s time to retry gnome or something else.

You can use both? I use Mint but also use QTCreator (KDE) for development.

Things like hiDPI support go funny, but that's just Linux for you.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by [deleted] »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #30
brianshaler wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally use ubuntu and have used snap enough to get thoroughly burned and annoyed by it. Slow starts, no auto-update controls with bad defaults corrupting running programs, spammed mount points... (edit: see comment below for some limited controls to reduce the frequency of auto-updates) But, unless I'm missing something about latest or future releases, isn't it still optional? Can't you use apt instead and unin…

> But, unless I'm missing something about latest or future releases, isn't it still optional? Can't you use apt instead and uninstall snapd altogether? There seem to be more and more things that are only delivered as snaps. I haven't used Ubuntu on the desktop in a while (and even then, it was just trying it out), but I remember that trying to apt install would say "use the snap". I think LXD is in that case, for exa…

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Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by spaniard89277 »

brianshaler wrote: post #16
kzrdude wrote: post #2

The snap thing makes me want to switch distro (for work) from ubuntu. Unfortunately we have some benefits from using ubuntu as the common platform for less divergence from each other

I personally use ubuntu and have used snap enough to get thoroughly burned and annoyed by it. Slow starts, no auto-update controls with bad defaults corrupting running programs, spammed mount points... (edit: see comment below for some limited controls to reduce the frequency of auto-updates) But, unless I'm missing something about latest or future releases, isn't it still optional? Can't you use apt instead and unin…

Firefox is only available as snap now. I gues it's bthe same for other apps.

For VSCode I managed to download a deb from their site IIRC, but from apt it only suggests to download from snap.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by vladvasiliu »

nik736 wrote: post #25

Please correct me if I am wrong, but you can simply snap install with a --channel, which could be a specific version. This way it is not auto updating, since it's on that specific channel/version.

Aren't channels things like "stable" or "bleeding edge" or something like that? Which means that this would only work if the snap vendor cooperates.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by rlpb »

brianshaler wrote: post #16
kzrdude wrote: post #2

The snap thing makes me want to switch distro (for work) from ubuntu. Unfortunately we have some benefits from using ubuntu as the common platform for less divergence from each other

I personally use ubuntu and have used snap enough to get thoroughly burned and annoyed by it. Slow starts, no auto-update controls with bad defaults corrupting running programs, spammed mount points... (edit: see comment below for some limited controls to reduce the frequency of auto-updates) But, unless I'm missing something about latest or future releases, isn't it still optional? Can't you use apt instead and unin…

> no auto-update controls

Maybe not what you want exactly but there are controls and claiming otherwise is misleading.

https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date#heading--...

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by teraflop »

nik736 wrote: post #25

Please correct me if I am wrong, but you can simply snap install with a --channel, which could be a specific version. This way it is not auto updating, since it's on that specific channel/version.

AFAIK, selecting a channel doesn't prevent automatic updates, it just limits them to a subset of versions. It doesn't in any way prevent a new version from being published to that channel and automatically installed.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Post by jabiko »

We use microk8s on our dev clusters and its really great when an automatic upgrade goes sideways. Also using channels didn't help since even a minor upgrade managed to break our setup once.

The last half year or so went ok, but not being able to stop automatic upgrades is ridiculous. In general I like opinionated software, but sometimes it goes to far.

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