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Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by anyfactor »

I assume the typical dev sentiment is that I would rather spend/waste/invest 2 hours of my time rather than spend/waste/invest 1 hour trying to read other peoples code and documentation. Devs are fidgity bunch. And as the great filmmaker Satyajit Ray said, "The only solutions that are ever worth anything are the solutions that people find themselves."

Based on the quote above boilerplates are for people who are more founder-y than dev-y. Some see codebase as solution, some see code as solution.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

jyunderwood wrote: post #31

$1000/yr is steep for starting a project from scratch with it. You need to really be sure about needing it and about it paying for itself. The Rails equivalent ( https://jumpstartrails.com/ ) is $249/year and the Laravel equivalent ( https://spark.laravel.com/ ) is $99/project. Those seem geared in features and price at hobbyist wanting to monetize a side project. This looks like it would be just as helpful for hobby…

https://bullettrain.co/pricing is another example ($1450 one-time + $550/year).

> Maybe it’s more for people who are about to start a second revenue project.

I do think this is an interesting point that's come up a couple times now.

For what it's worth, I just added a 50% discount to the top of the page for the time being.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

tthun wrote: post #34
davegaeddert wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience. Me too — trying to figure that out! > but that project needs to be basically non existent while also being somewhat serious Super interesting point. I've helped integrate it into some existing projects and it is not fun. > In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository? I don't disagree with this. A couple differences in my mind are support (t…

tailwind ui had a Goldilocks pricing imho .. you could always offer discounts case by case if prospect can fill out a form.

Good point. Still trying to figure out who is interested, but I'll probably add a student/educational discount too. (If anybody sees this and wants that, let me know.)

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

sailfast wrote: post #40

Add a Wagtail CMS layer and you'll have a number of agencies / companies potentially ready to use this as a service. Do you plan on providing a hosted version as well, or just the core shipped package?

Don't have any plans for Wagtail or hosting, but those are interesting questions. I'll have to give it some thought.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

tony wrote: post #36

I think this makes sense. Ideas: - Showcase your reciprocal contributions you make back to django community packages (e.g. Jazzband packages). - Release a permissively licensed django package (with no catches) under your GH's org and brand name and have it take off. (e.g. django-forge-admin) - The holy grail would be contributions to django itself. Example: Adding more CSS variables in django admin to font-size and f…

All good ideas — thanks for taking the time. I've been thinking about some of these but not all.

On the 1 customer vs 100, I totally lean towards the 100. I have a blend of these with https://www.pullapprove.com/ and the higher the price, the more it feels like you just work for them. Pros and cons, but personally I don't want something that looks like freelance/consulting/employment.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

czue wrote: post #39
reducesuffering wrote: post #33

I'm interested and have purchased SaaSPegasus.com before. I like to compare the base setups between Django SaaS deployments for learnings. But SaaSPegasus is $299, imo $1,000 is far too much, and I wouldn't purchase it.

Thanks for the support and let me know if you have any suggestions on how to make Pegasus better! :)

Kudos to czue and Pegasus! I haven't used it before, but if that's a better fit for what you want, go buy it!

Honestly I feel a little weird "competing" directly with something like this, but such is life. Thanks to everyone who has made something similar (in any ecosystem), which is part of what got me over the hump of thinking it was even possible. I'm glad Django is getting some options and new ideas!

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by systemvoltage »

tony wrote: post #36

I think this makes sense. Ideas: - Showcase your reciprocal contributions you make back to django community packages (e.g. Jazzband packages). - Release a permissively licensed django package (with no catches) under your GH's org and brand name and have it take off. (e.g. django-forge-admin) - The holy grail would be contributions to django itself. Example: Adding more CSS variables in django admin to font-size and f…

I wonder if this creates more problems than it solves.

For example, imagine there are a bunch of startups trying their hardest to shoe-horn contributions in Django main branch. It puts a lot of load on core developers at Django to reject frivolous features and unnecessary bloat.

The end effect would be that we get features no one asks for and Django becomes even more bloated.

Django is already a very popular framework and has many contributors.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by brianarbuckle »

ryanchants wrote: post #37
jyunderwood wrote: post #31

$1000/yr is steep for starting a project from scratch with it. You need to really be sure about needing it and about it paying for itself. The Rails equivalent ( https://jumpstartrails.com/ ) is $249/year and the Laravel equivalent ( https://spark.laravel.com/ ) is $99/project. Those seem geared in features and price at hobbyist wanting to monetize a side project. This looks like it would be just as helpful for hobby…

For Django there is also SaaS Pegasus( https://www.saaspegasus.com/ ) which has a pricing structure more in-line with Jumpstart Rails.

I am building a project with SaaS Pegasus, which I like. I have the unlimited projects account, allowing me a few experimental versions of my project(s) where I can quickly spin up and try variations of their offerings.
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