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Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by MrJohz » Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 7:21 AM UTC

supermatt wrote: post #38

MrJohz wrote: post #12

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Note that fonts from Google Fonts can be self-hosted which resolves that problem. It's a little bit more work to set up, but it does resolve this issue well, while also being slightly more efficient for the end-user (assuming that you've got a decent CDN setup).

no less efficient hosting yourself. cross-site resource caching has been unavailable in major browsers for a while - safari since 2013, chrome since 2020, firefox since 2021.

That's what I was trying to say, I think I got excited and used too many double negatives...

Theoretically, it should be more efficient hosting these things yourself - there are fewer origins to request, which means fewer lookups, fewer connections, etc.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by MrJohz » Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 7:26 AM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #36

andrejguran wrote: post #33

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What if the recording is your conversations? What if it's the location of places you visited? What if it's people you're on pictures with? It's still just recording facts about the world? Are you comfortable with apps doing this without any oversight?

That's fine. Discord already has thousands of conversations that I've had with people. Google has a history of places I've visited and I've had an improved Google maps experience from that data. I don't really take many pictures with people. I would say I am mostly fine with it. It would me nice if they could disclose what they collect though. I think informing consumers is a good thing.

Informing consumers is largely what the GDPR regulations are about - ensuring that data can't be collected without the informed consent of users, and that when it is collected, the users can then see what data is available and how it's being used, along with being able to delete it if they wish.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by shukantpal » Sat, Mar 26, 2022, 2:01 PM UTC

white_dragon88 wrote: post #11

shukantpal wrote: post #9

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Maybe users should be responsible for what they intentionally run on their machines.

That’s absurd. That’s like saying car owners should be held responsible for how safe their car is to drive. It makes unrealistic assumptions about the competency of the end user to judge such things.

No it’s not. Rather it’s more like drivers should be held responsible for how they drive their car.

I’m not even saying responsible— just they cant reasonably complain when they drive somewhere new and they don’t like the road conditions.

Your original analogy is more like this: If a person's computer got hacked unintentionally, they shouldn’t be responsible for the damage it caused to others.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by shukantpal » Sat, Mar 26, 2022, 2:05 PM UTC

Daishiman wrote: post #10

shukantpal wrote: post #9

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Maybe users should be responsible for what they intentionally run on their machines.

Nobody in their right mind is going to carefully peruse the cookies and injected JS scripts of every page they visit. No, the onus is clearly on the developers, who are the ones with the professional responsibility to make software that abides by the laws.

I’m talking at the meta level. The laws can start nationalizing every company. But I think it shouldn’t. The law can put the burden on developers — but shouldn’t.

I shouldn’t have to abide by some stupid rules to plug my server onto the Internet and listen on port 80.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by shukantpal » Sat, Mar 26, 2022, 2:06 PM UTC

hulitu wrote: post #17

shukantpal wrote: post #9

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Maybe users should be responsible for what they intentionally run on their machines.

Your right. The best way is to filter at the firewall level everything Google, Microsoft, Cloudfare, Facebook, Twitter etc. The world would be a better place. Now try to do this on Windows 10 :)

I use NoScript on Google. Works fine. Most things work okay without scripts if you are just there to read.