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Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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To many, yes.

To many on the internet which was financed by DARPA? The irony is strong on this thread.

Perhaps you're forgetting that although the NSA have at times historically been regarded as good guys, they've since been found to quietly backdoor crypto products (etc) to others detriment.

That's a bit different from DARPA.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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I mean I urge folks who have the ability to direct some of their company's money towards Tor. It's directly helping both Ukranian and Russian citizens right now.

Sure Tor helps Ukrainian and Russian citizens, but I urge the Tor foundation to question themselves and to stop accepting crypto token donations and grants. It acts as an endorsement and emboldens the cryptobros, enthusiasts and fans to pump the price of the token.

When you know a better solution just name it. It's easy to criticice a decision when you don't need to find a better way. Who's interested in some crypto bros and some idiots that lose their money when you don't have another working possibility?

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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I despise crypto, but telling an underfunded OSS project to abandon scarce funding for what is a relatively minor ideological reason definitely rubs me the wrong way. Rather than demanding them to change, why not find a way to help secure them a source of less objectionable funding.

Is it underfunded? (Genuine question.) According to the 2020 fiscal report they received ~$4.5mm in donations and grants which isn’t too shabby.

https://blog.torproject.org/transparency-openness-and-our-20...

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Do you ask that in the comments of every project on the off chance?

This question is relevant when 1: one of the most important (perceived) adversarial is the NSA; 2: as of 2012, 80% of The Tor Project's $2 million annual budget came from the United States government; 3: the Underhanded C Contest exists and we can assume that however secure Rust is, writing underhanded Rust code is possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tor_Project#Funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underhanded_C_Contest

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Using crypto is a good thing in my eyes, but you seem to be convinced that crypto is all evil and a scam.

We've seen in recent years that fiat payment systems are ran by bad actors, that will on a whim revoke access to their systems to any entity they deem "problematic", even if no laws have been broken.

Crypto allows entities to freely exchange money without having to worry about passing some arbitrary purity test or getting witch-hunted into oblivion.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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I am not a big fan of alt-coins, but I'm not sure I would dare call ZCash a "Crypto token scam project". A scam in my book has one or more of the following properties: - pre-mined (a part) off all tokes (like ETH ~70%) [1] - has a team that will "rug pull" the users of their coin (think ONEcoin) [2] - Is only paying lip-service to being decentralized (think again ETH) [3] Also, who cares where the money comes from? I…

All of them are, including this 'ZCash'. As long as there are enough greater fools to pump the price of the token. Only for them to lose their money in the end.

Tor is already seen in a bad light for being used for illicit activity, terrorism, illegal drugs, etc. We can have and fund tools that enhances privacy without endorsing or taking money from a so called 'cryptocurrency' that exists to distribute fake internet dark web tokens.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

#47

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Sure Tor helps Ukrainian and Russian citizens, but I urge the Tor foundation to question themselves and to stop accepting crypto token donations and grants. It acts as an endorsement and emboldens the cryptobros, enthusiasts and fans to pump the price of the token.

When you know a better solution just name it. It's easy to criticice a decision when you don't need to find a better way. Who's interested in some crypto bros and some idiots that lose their money when you don't have another working possibility?

I already did. They can go for the Rust Foundation Grants Program or perhaps the Mozilla Foundation grants program.

I am sure there are other grants that I have missed out but the solution is there.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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So at this point it is ready for passing traffic through a SOCKS proxy. Meaning we can `cargo run --release -- proxy` and redirect applications to use port `9150` for their network connections. Couple of related questions: - Does anyone know, in a Linux distro, how to pass all system traffic through a SOCKS proxy port? I'm not looking for intermediary proxy handlers but an official method to force all user and system…

I don't think you can generally expect all processes to transparently use a SOCKS proxy? You might be able to finagle a custom vpn around it, I suppose. But AFAIK SOCKS isn't 100% transparent at the IP layer allowing all protocols to transparently layer on top?

I guess SOCKS5 handles tcp and udp - so you might get away with redsocks (which explicitly recommends against using with TOR):

https://github.com/darkk/redsocks

See also transocks (SOCKS4 tcp only): https://transocks.sourceforge.net

And transocks (in go) https://github.com/cybozu-go/transocks

Ed: see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30684574

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Have you finally cracked the Tor network yet to find and trace all those Nazis, extremists, hitmen and terrorists that are still hiding there to make that unfounded claim?

Seems to be exactly as unfounded as yours, yes?

Is it? There's just too many to list here, even after the shutting down of Silk Road, but these crackdowns cannot be ignored; and look what they found. Majority of criminals using it once again.

[0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/08/349016/a-dark-we...

[1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2845616/biggest-ever-t...

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