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Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by scruple »

danielktdoranie wrote: post #28
TestSIM1 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Russia it's a total clusterfuck at this point. 1) Roscomnadzor bans Twitter in Russia. 2) Russian embassy posts on Twitter claiming Mariupol hospital bombing was faked. It's like: Should we ban Twitter in Russia? Yes. Should we keep posting Russian propaganda on Twitter? Also yes.

Pretty sure Russia took responsibility for the hospital but my understanding is Russia claims their intelligence was 1.) it was no longer a functioning hospital and 2.) used as a base of operations for the fascist Azov Battalion... not that it didn't happen.

They can claim whatever they want. They're known liars. What are they claiming as retroactive justification for shooting fleeing civilians?

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

ceejayoz wrote: post #19
yrgulation wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, the first paragraph does say: “the social network changed its hate speech rules to allow users to call for violence against Russians”. It may very well be that its reuters spreading propaganda.

Unless it's been ninja-edited, you've left off the rest of that sentence, which says "in the context of the war with Ukraine". The article also goes on to say "although it would not allow calls for violence against Russian civilians"

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Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by watwut »

danielktdoranie wrote: post #28
TestSIM1 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Russia it's a total clusterfuck at this point. 1) Roscomnadzor bans Twitter in Russia. 2) Russian embassy posts on Twitter claiming Mariupol hospital bombing was faked. It's like: Should we ban Twitter in Russia? Yes. Should we keep posting Russian propaganda on Twitter? Also yes.

Pretty sure Russia took responsibility for the hospital but my understanding is Russia claims their intelligence was 1.) it was no longer a functioning hospital and 2.) used as a base of operations for the fascist Azov Battalion... not that it didn't happen.

Which is ... not taking responsibility. And simultaneously it is ... claiming that bombing of maternity ward did not happened.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

danielktdoranie wrote: post #32

With all this banning of western media, social media and pornography websites looks like Russian citizens may end up being the most well adjusted and happy people on the planet.

Yeah, they totally look like the most psychologically balanced and friendly people around, gleefully cheering on a fascist war of aggression that is already costing their own country thousands coming home in body bags and a virtual disconnection from the world economy. But yeah, maybe that was all Pornhub and Instagram's fault.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by TestSIM1 »

throwuxiytayq wrote: post #29
lalaland1125 wrote: post #10

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> Should we keep posting Russian proganda on Twitter? Also yes. Well, that propaganda is for foreign audiences. This is 100% consistent. You can believe the game is rigged, but still be forced to play.

Ok, yes, correct. But either you're missing the parent poster's point or I'm missing yours.

Both lalaland1125 and duxup are correct. It's for the Western audience.

But my point was along the lines: Kremlin's bans Twitter since they can't control it in Russia (e.g. hard to remove content or prosecute the users.)

And they still keep using it despite all their recent "fuck you West" rhetoric.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by kurthr »

listless wrote: post #30
TestSIM1 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Russia it's a total clusterfuck at this point. 1) Roscomnadzor bans Twitter in Russia. 2) Russian embassy posts on Twitter claiming Mariupol hospital bombing was faked. It's like: Should we ban Twitter in Russia? Yes. Should we keep posting Russian propaganda on Twitter? Also yes.

Is banning effective? Can’t you just hop on a VPN and be done with it? Do they block that too?

Yes, although it will "go down on your permanent record". As long as you don't post anything identifiable online or upset anyone, you probably won't be arrested.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by Chris2048 »

jaywalk wrote: post #18
torstenvl wrote: post #11

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That is not true. Please try to be careful not to unintentionally spread propaganda. > allowing posts such as "death to the Russian invaders," although it would not allow calls for violence against Russian civilians. There's a big difference between self defense against an aggressive war and calls for genocide. Targeting invaders from a country's armed forces is not the same as targeting that country's civilians or l…

You may use Meta's platforms to call for the death of this specific list of approved people/groups only. Any other calls for death are not allowed, although the approved list may change at Meta's sole discretion at any time.

> specific list of approved people/groups

Should we tolerate the intolerant, or in this case, refuse to use violence against the violent?

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by TestSIM1 »

listless wrote: post #30
TestSIM1 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Russia it's a total clusterfuck at this point. 1) Roscomnadzor bans Twitter in Russia. 2) Russian embassy posts on Twitter claiming Mariupol hospital bombing was faked. It's like: Should we ban Twitter in Russia? Yes. Should we keep posting Russian propaganda on Twitter? Also yes.

Is banning effective? Can’t you just hop on a VPN and be done with it? Do they block that too?

Some VPN sites and apps (Google Play and App Store) are banned.

Still for now getting a VPN isn't that hard.

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