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Netflix CFO has no plans for advertising but 'never say never'

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Re: Netflix CFO has no plans for advertising but 'never say never'

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Post by sebazzz »

SarikayaKomzin wrote: post #39
zeruch wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I already torrent some Netflix content for fear of them removing it after some set date arbitrarily (e.g. Gloria, Umbrella Academy) Netflix as far as I'm concerned, is just the newest member of "Big Content" with essentially the same behaviors except they are 'streaming first'...beyond that, no different. Like Google, they will eventually forget everything that made them appealing in the first place and be trash, wit…

Those dates are almost always not arbitrary. They're usually due to licensing and distribution agreements. Not trying to dissuade your from torrenting, but it's disingenuous to call those dates arbitrary. They're the simple reality of being in the content business, even originals aren't always fully vertically integrated, but that's certain the direction the industry is moving.

Is there transparency of these dates to the Netflix clients? If not, it is from that perspective pretty arbitrary.

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Post by woldemariam »

evocatus wrote: post #33

The day this happens is the day I unsubscribe and resume aggressive piracy out of spite. Like hell if I am going to pay to be fucking served advertising.

it likely won't affect existing plans. It would likely be a different plan you can choose to switch to if you want to pay less for netflix.

Re: Netflix CFO has no plans for advertising but 'never say never'

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

namlem wrote: post #26
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except the "No ads" claim on Premium is bullshit false advertising, because some content still has ads before and after. I vote for my wallet by not paying for Hulu.

Iirc, it's only a handful of shows and it's due to contractual agreements that pre-date the ad-free plan.

Then Hulu should have renegotiated the contracts rather than resort to lying in their marketing.

Re: Netflix CFO has no plans for advertising but 'never say never'

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Post by zeruch »

SarikayaKomzin wrote: post #39
zeruch wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I already torrent some Netflix content for fear of them removing it after some set date arbitrarily (e.g. Gloria, Umbrella Academy) Netflix as far as I'm concerned, is just the newest member of "Big Content" with essentially the same behaviors except they are 'streaming first'...beyond that, no different. Like Google, they will eventually forget everything that made them appealing in the first place and be trash, wit…

Those dates are almost always not arbitrary. They're usually due to licensing and distribution agreements. Not trying to dissuade your from torrenting, but it's disingenuous to call those dates arbitrary. They're the simple reality of being in the content business, even originals aren't always fully vertically integrated, but that's certain the direction the industry is moving.

I'm not being disingenuous, and "the reality of the content business" is mostly arbitrary in many ways (I worked in anti-piracy for years in an irony to trump all ironies, and the industry is on a good day, a bad sub-plot from an episode of Entourage).

Those licensing and distribution agreements are often opaque to the public, and the industry has helped to create a consumer fickleness that perpetuates the bad habits all around.

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Post by moltar »

tough wrote: post #4

Is this a submarine PR to test the waters? If they put ads on netflix, what's the point of not pirating the torrent even if I pay netflix because I hate ads? Maybe they can try it for netflix originals and in exchange of free instead of paid subscription, would be a nice experiment to try and compete with TV that way going free/ads

Maybe they want to offer free service, but monetized by ads?

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Post by samspenc »

moltar wrote: post #47
tough wrote: post #4

Is this a submarine PR to test the waters? If they put ads on netflix, what's the point of not pirating the torrent even if I pay netflix because I hate ads? Maybe they can try it for netflix originals and in exchange of free instead of paid subscription, would be a nice experiment to try and compete with TV that way going free/ads

Maybe they want to offer free service, but monetized by ads?

Or a low-cost option with ads. Hulu and others already do this, and Disney+ just announced that it would be trying a similar model.

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Post by wodenokoto »

InitialLastName wrote: post #31
wodenokoto wrote: post #29

Netflix loves to say that they don’t do paid product placement and weasel out by doing product placement paid for by joint promotions (stranger things) or paid to “non-Netflix”-Netflix production (or what the hell the call it, when they don’t have exclusive rights to their Netflix exclusives) (any Korean show) I think this is about product placement. And I just don’t understand why Netflix hasn’t begun doing dynamic…

What do they call it when every alcoholic beverage in Ozark is produced by AB-Inbev and has a prominently-featured label?

They say, it’s either a collab, where they share promotion and no money changes hand, so it’s “not paid product placement” or it’s not produced by Netflix (even though it has the big N animation and shows up when browsing for Netflix shows), so it’s “not Netflix who are doing the product placement.”

It’s all weasel words. Netflix is obviously big on product placement. I don’t like it, but from a business point of view I think it’s their best option, in order to keep prices down, while still avoiding showing traditional sponsored segments.

Re: Netflix CFO has no plans for advertising but 'never say never'

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Post by yakubin »

tough wrote: post #4

Is this a submarine PR to test the waters? If they put ads on netflix, what's the point of not pirating the torrent even if I pay netflix because I hate ads? Maybe they can try it for netflix originals and in exchange of free instead of paid subscription, would be a nice experiment to try and compete with TV that way going free/ads

I used to pay for Netflix and still torrent its content due to the low quality of video, sometimes mysterious network problems (only with Netflix), sometimes not being able to watch a movie without dubbing (???). Generally, no matter how much magic there is on Netflix's backend that I read about, the frontend seems to be a pile of goo.

But over the years, movies kept disappearing from Netflix and at this point anything I may want to watch is typically not available on Netflix, so I cancelled my subscription. I'm probably going to switch to Amazon Prime, since it appears to have the best offer in terms of content.

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