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It is important to keep Firefox solvent and operational as it is the last real independent browser. Everything else is built on Chromium (or Webkit), which are owned and spied upon by Google (and Apple?)
Independent of what? The ad-o-sphere? If they are showing ads, they are not independent of them.
Why am I seeing this adorable red panda?
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#43On the one hand Mozilla needs to make money somehow, on the other hand, this does feel tacky. What other alternative is there that would actually be sustainable for them?
Does Greenpeace need to "make money"? Mozilla is a nonprofit. They need income obviously but it feels like they are taking a very different approach than most nonprofits.
The American Cancer Society convinced professional sports teams to wear pink for an entire month, the Goodwill collects people's unwanted junk and sells it, the YMCA recorded a song and choreographed a dance...the only approach I'm aware of that non profits take is the one that generates the most money..
The fact that Mozilla is a non profit and have built a product that performs on-par with products built by two of the most valuable companies in the world (Microsoft and Google) is astonishing. The engineers building Firefox cost the same amount as the engineers building Chrome and Edge. But balk all you want at seeing an adorable red panda fill up your screen
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#44I updated my browser and when it finished I was greeted by this ad. Now I'm figuring out how to disable notifications that an update is available and prevent checking for them entirely so that I don't get shown an ad because I made the mistake of updating a piece of software. Doesn't this sort of endorsement require disclosure? Not a lawyer but I would expect there to be something marking the content of the page as a…
I haven't tested it, but this page describes an about:config flag that apparently inhibits the /whatsnew/ page:
https://kb.mozillazine.org/Startup.homepage_override_url
If browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone is set to "ignore", the browser's homepage will not be overridden after updates.Re: Why am I seeing this adorable red panda?
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Every day I consider saying 'to hell with it' and going back to Safari.
Safari does not seem to have a robust adblocker solution. I could be mistaken but it seems like you can only install extensions through their app store? So convoluted compared to Chrome. It is blazing fast though. :/
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#46I put enormous effort into blocking as much advertising and marketing from my life as is humanly possible. I have written my own browser plugins and scripts, I have created network-wide blockers, I do not listen to the radio, I do not watch television, I do not look at billboards. I use Firefox to protect my privacy from advertisers and to block ads. So you may be able to imaging my rage when Firefox updated and auto…
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#47I put enormous effort into blocking as much advertising and marketing from my life as is humanly possible. I have written my own browser plugins and scripts, I have created network-wide blockers, I do not listen to the radio, I do not watch television, I do not look at billboards. I use Firefox to protect my privacy from advertisers and to block ads. So you may be able to imaging my rage when Firefox updated and auto…
I (based in Europe) see a page presenting Mozilla VPN. Are you saying you see an ad for Disney? [edit] I used a United States VPN now. Indeed a Disney ad for a movie. In Europe it's a static page with some text about Mozilla VPN.
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#48I put enormous effort into blocking as much advertising and marketing from my life as is humanly possible. I have written my own browser plugins and scripts, I have created network-wide blockers, I do not listen to the radio, I do not watch television, I do not look at billboards. I use Firefox to protect my privacy from advertisers and to block ads. So you may be able to imaging my rage when Firefox updated and auto…
I think this kind of mentality can only be properly appreciated when you've attempted it for yourself. It's a lot of work, but I think that reclaiming the ability to better regulate your focus/attention is absolutely worth it. It's honestly like quitting your drug of choice (e.g. even just coffee or alcohol) and observing the affect it has on you after using it again for a long time. Only in this case, there is no "u…
Because it does not get better. As you begin to adapt to them, the ads change.
I find it intolerable that every high-end device comes with less control and more ads than ever before. Therefore I no longer buy such devices.
I am happy on my barebones Linux desktop and my second-hand Android phone that is not logged into anything - because I have control.
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I think this kind of mentality can only be properly appreciated when you've attempted it for yourself. It's a lot of work, but I think that reclaiming the ability to better regulate your focus/attention is absolutely worth it. It's honestly like quitting your drug of choice (e.g. even just coffee or alcohol) and observing the affect it has on you after using it again for a long time. Only in this case, there is no "u…
Do you mean regulating your own focus in face of ads? Because it does not get better. As you begin to adapt to them, the ads change. I find it intolerable that every high-end device comes with less control and more ads than ever before. Therefore I no longer buy such devices. I am happy on my barebones Linux desktop and my second-hand Android phone that is not logged into anything - because I have control.
Quite the opposite. I have really poor ability to tune them out, especially any audio portions. Once in front of me, they get under my skin easily and this isn't something I feel comfortable trying to just accept, despite how much "easier" it'd make things.
> Because it does not get better. As you begin to adapt to them, the ads change.
Agreed 100%, thus why zero tolerance is the only permissible option for me.
Here is a wager I don't wanna win: the "apps are constantly force-updated" world merges with the marketing world so that downtime is filled with ads. It's devilishly perfect: you're eagerly waiting to use the thing, so you're already a captive audience.