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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by b3nji »

coffeeblack wrote: post #3

Good. It’s important to be able to see all sides. Everybody with a brain will know to be very skeptical of any news source directly controlled by a government. Same is true for CGTN and other channels still on YT.

Everyone has a brain, its up to the individual to treat others with the knowledge that they have different information, perceptions, and experiences.

I'm not certain writing off whole swathes of people based on personal perspective is a good plan.

Reach out to those you disagree with, be it antivax, flat earth, whatever.

They are human, and want the best for themselves, and their family.

Try not to "other", if you can help it.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by [deleted] »

simion314 wrote: post #18

Quick question, most countries have laws on how media should work, like what can you put on public TV at what hours, how to mark certain content, rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective and punishments if you don't follow the rules, like removing your TV license. Did we allow this new media to just ignore our laws and publish one sided fabricated news? Maybe is finally the time to block stuff that…

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by simion314 »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #24
simion314 wrote: post #18

Quick question, most countries have laws on how media should work, like what can you put on public TV at what hours, how to mark certain content, rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective and punishments if you don't follow the rules, like removing your TV license. Did we allow this new media to just ignore our laws and publish one sided fabricated news? Maybe is finally the time to block stuff that…

> rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective Not sure what country you're referring to, but there's certainly no such rule in the US, Australia, or the UK. In the US it would be unconstitutional.

>Not sure what country you're referring to, but there's certainly no such rule in the US, Australia, or the UK. In the US it would be unconstitutional.

So in US you can say on newspaper or TV things like "Bob did X" and Bob can do nothing about it? I thought the at least justice can demand Bob to be paid damages and the newspaper/TV to show a retraction. I mean are you free to denigrate people in US with no consequences? If yes, let's ignore US and focus on countries where we demand media to act like professionals, to have a code and rules and to pay if they broke it, pay damages if they damage people etc.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by kcb »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #19
kyrra wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Silencing ideas that you do not agree with does not lead to an open society. Because guess what, the less popular ideas ends up being the right one sometimes. (In this case I agree that RT is likely propaganda, but knowing an argument you disagree with makes it easier to argue against people that make it.)

Every media is propaganda. RT is directly financed by the Kremlin just like CNN is at the behest of the current American administration. It's absurd to think any of these channels will not try to manipulate their audience. What is certain on the other hand is that it is Russia which invaded Ukraine, a free country, at first place. What is also certain is that any news organization in Russia that doesn't follow the Kr…

> RT is directly financed by the Kremlin just like CNN is at the behest of the current American administration

It's not just like at all.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by jdrc »

phatfish wrote: post #16
coffeeblack wrote: post #3

Good. It’s important to be able to see all sides. Everybody with a brain will know to be very skeptical of any news source directly controlled by a government. Same is true for CGTN and other channels still on YT.

Right now it is worthless, anything on RT about the "special military operation" is 100% propaganda. It's just fun watching their presenters try to act normal.

it is, and that's important to know. most russians (and more importantly russians abroad) are presented with the same tired old propaganda they always did

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Post by adolph »

logicchains wrote: post #28
yrgulation wrote: post #20

The fact that pro putin’s propaganda channel comments are getting upvoted, while those against are downvoted says a lot about the type of people that use this forum. Russia today and sputnik constantly promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship. Appalling.

>promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship It's pretty damn ironic that in the same breath you accuse Russia of promoting anti-western values, you attack the classic western value of free speech by calling for the banning of news sources you disagree with.

Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Groucho Marx

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by numeromancer »

simion314 wrote: post #18

Quick question, most countries have laws on how media should work, like what can you put on public TV at what hours, how to mark certain content, rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective and punishments if you don't follow the rules, like removing your TV license. Did we allow this new media to just ignore our laws and publish one sided fabricated news? Maybe is finally the time to block stuff that…

Should "we" force you to label your posts as "activism" rather than "information" or "discussion"?

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by emteycz »

herdcall wrote: post #32
phatfish wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now it is worthless, anything on RT about the "special military operation" is 100% propaganda. It's just fun watching their presenters try to act normal.

Yes, but I'm not sure we can trust what's coming out of Ukraine/Zelensky either, like 10K Russians killed, victory is imminent, etc. This way at least we may get tidbits from the other side, including arguments/thoughts from Russia side. E.g., I saw a post yesterday on Medium that Ukraine is discriminating against black refugees ( https://medium.com/alternative-perspectives/why-are-black-pe... ). If you're only liste…

There are individual excesses, but definitely no kind of systematic discrimination. Excesses like this happen even in Germany during peace.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

herdcall wrote: post #32
phatfish wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now it is worthless, anything on RT about the "special military operation" is 100% propaganda. It's just fun watching their presenters try to act normal.

Yes, but I'm not sure we can trust what's coming out of Ukraine/Zelensky either, like 10K Russians killed, victory is imminent, etc. This way at least we may get tidbits from the other side, including arguments/thoughts from Russia side. E.g., I saw a post yesterday on Medium that Ukraine is discriminating against black refugees ( https://medium.com/alternative-perspectives/why-are-black-pe... ). If you're only liste…

listening to the other extreme isn't giving you their POV or even their perception of reality. it just gives you what they want you to believe, and more propaganda. if the aim is not simply more entertainment for our lizard brain (voluntary indoctrination while being also fully aware that this is what's happening), then the better way for seeking truth isn't to hear all sides but to find outlets that are not having a horse in this race. (which unfortunately is almost impossible, but my point stands that it will not add value for seeking truth)
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