Is it possible to get a copy of a root server’s info somehow without doing a recursive lookup on every TLD?
Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
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Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#42What the hell? This would only stop countries in the west from accessing Russian websites. Russia can certainly set up it's own fallback DNS for .ru domains. And China and India aren't likely to want to be blocked from Russian domains, so they'll likely use that DNS system also. As usual, people who don't understand how DNS works are asking to wave it around like a magic wand. The internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it. Yes, even DNS itself.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#43Even north korea is allowed to have an active tld (kp)
https://github.com/mandatoryprogrammer/NorthKoreaDNSLeak
This seems short sighted.
You want to do the things that hurt the top few percent at the top of Russia, seize the yachts, seize all the endless apartments and condos they have all around the world, NY and Florida, etc. Seize all foreign cars coming into Russia.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#44Can Russia do the same? Or can any country do the same? Who has the power here?
Well, if "do the same" is requesting, then yes, everyone - including you and me - can make all kinds of requests to ICANN. But I don't this request would or should be met.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#45Even north korea is allowed to have an active tld (kp) https://github.com/mandatoryprogrammer/NorthKoreaDNSLeak This seems short sighted. You want to do the things that hurt the top few percent at the top of Russia, seize the yachts, seize all the endless apartments and condos they have all around the world, NY and Florida, etc. Seize all foreign cars coming into Russia.
Iran (.ir) as well.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#46Is it possible to get a copy of a root server’s info somehow without doing a recursive lookup on every TLD?
AXFR global DNS zone transfer
Usually blocked at the top level root server.
However there have been incidents where such servers are misconfigured and allow it.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#47I totally get the sentiment, but it will be the worst thing that west can do right now. Russia been practicing and preparing for a while to "sovereign internet", i.e. total disconnect from rest of the internet and operating independently.
If ICANN/RIPE will shut things down, it will give to Russian government excellent excuse to totally disconnect from rest of the world
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#48Is it possible to get a copy of a root server’s info somehow without doing a recursive lookup on every TLD?
The root server only has tlds. In this case there are only 3 relavent lookups to do (.ru, .su and .рф)
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#49> Apart from these measures, I will be sending a separate request to RIPE NCC asking to withdraw the right to use all IPv4 and IPv6 addresses by all Russian members of RIPE NCC (LIRs - Local Internet Registries), and to block the DNS root servers that it is operating. I can't help but think that this is a bit detrimental to average citizens. Am I reading this right? Wouldn't this essentially split the internet at Rus…
The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This suggestion has several other issues though.
Even if there is rebelion at the end of the tunnel, right now it's just meaningless, endless suffering which also provokes extreme nationalism that the war can feed on.
Also, if anyone think it is acceptable to torture average, perhaps actively anti-war citizens to achieve the goal, I can only wish that you get the one chance in a lifetime to experience what it means and takes to survive in an authoritarian country and try making yourself a hero. I'm not Russian but let me put it this way: it is not about your life to sacrifice or your own fear to overcome. Your whole family and friends, they are all on the stake and the cops or whatever will absolutely go after them to break you. Or they do it for fun. They really do.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#50Does no one else think all these requests from Ukraine is a bit strange...
People, do your research and look into the history of Ukraine, you'll find that all of this was preventable. Watch something like Oliver Stone's Ukraine on Fire, it's a starting point to the bigger picture.
Does China face the same actions over their human rights violations ie. Uyghurs, no.
Does the US and its allies face the same actions over Iraq, Libya, Yemen... No.
Is the CIA held liable for all the coups and regime change initiatives throughout the years... No.
There's propaganda on all sides.