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Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

ethbr0 wrote: post #25
lovehashbrowns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two other videos that got posted alongside this one makes me think it was a "forgotten tape that just got digitized" type of deal. However, I can also see there being an element of trauma and just not wanting to revisit the footage on purpose. I know I have some pictures I never want to look at again, although nothing on this scale.

As someone who watched the second plane hit live on CNN, it was... hard. People who weren't alive or were otherwise busy that morning don't remember the uncertainty after the first plane. Everyone thought it was an accident. No one could conceive it was a deliberate strike. Everyone knew terrorists hijacked airplanes to fly to third world countries, not to commit suicide into buildings. That cognitive dissonance all…

Exactly! I remember getting dressed for work while listening to MPR (Minnesota Public Radio) about an airplane hitting the WTC and I figured it was just a small Cessna 172 or something so I turned on my TV just in time to see the second impact live.

Watching it happen live with the immediate knowledge that it was obviously a deliberate act was, like you said, a huge amount to process all at once.

I actually think that having a goal like "get dressed and go to work" probably was a great benefit to my mental state.

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by flycaliguy »

Invictus0 wrote: post #17
mbustamanter wrote: post #7

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It's hard to believe, but new media of the September 11 attacks (and the towers before) comes out all the time. This includes rare pictures and videos. There are YouTube channels [0] specifically dedicated to finding music played on the plaza (muzak), partly inspired by Jack Taliercio's video [1], where you can hear songs being played while the attacks went down. Other channels have more mainstream videos (FOIA, NIST…

After all these years, I've still never seen a video of the Pentagon impact. Has anything come out for that?

It seems perfectly plausible to me that releasing video of the Pentagon being struck by terrorists would only serve to glorify the events that day. At the end of the day those agencies did their job and secured any footage. This gave the government the opportunity to decide what is released to the public and I think they made the right choice considering the promotional value of it to the terrorists.

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by vlunkr »

SllX wrote: post #35
ethbr0 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who watched the second plane hit live on CNN, it was... hard. People who weren't alive or were otherwise busy that morning don't remember the uncertainty after the first plane. Everyone thought it was an accident. No one could conceive it was a deliberate strike. Everyone knew terrorists hijacked airplanes to fly to third world countries, not to commit suicide into buildings. That cognitive dissonance all…

I second this. I was a child in Elementary school at the time and had just woken up and walked into the living room with the television on after the first plane attack. The reporter (forgot the network, I’d seen the same footage repeatedly all day that day and never wanted to look again) was still talking about the possibility of it being an accident right up until the second plane attacked. Even in my eyes at the ti…

My only connection to the word "terrorist" until that day was from a James Bond game (I was also young). Its hard to believe now, but the idea of a deliberate attack on civilians was really not on most people's radar at all. I think that's why most people's reaction to the second plane was pure bewilderment. It wouldn't be like that now.

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by spiderice »

ectopod wrote: post #38
GnarfGnarf wrote: post #34

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Could simply have been a hoax, to attract attention. (Having the video, I mean, not the attack).

What's the hoax? OP has seen the video.

Have they? It isn’t clear to me if they’ve seen it or just heard that it exists

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by barneygale »

pinephoneguy wrote: post #32
napier wrote: post #31

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Asked them about it recently? If not, please do.

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If the CIA/FBI wanted to make people think a plane had hit the pentagon, why wouldn't they just use a plane? This conspiracy theory is one of the dumbest.

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by Geezus-42 »

SllX wrote: post #35
ethbr0 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who watched the second plane hit live on CNN, it was... hard. People who weren't alive or were otherwise busy that morning don't remember the uncertainty after the first plane. Everyone thought it was an accident. No one could conceive it was a deliberate strike. Everyone knew terrorists hijacked airplanes to fly to third world countries, not to commit suicide into buildings. That cognitive dissonance all…

I second this. I was a child in Elementary school at the time and had just woken up and walked into the living room with the television on after the first plane attack. The reporter (forgot the network, I’d seen the same footage repeatedly all day that day and never wanted to look again) was still talking about the possibility of it being an accident right up until the second plane attacked. Even in my eyes at the ti…

I was in 6th grade, when we walked into second period English the teacher had a new channel on the TV. Noone had told us anything was going on so my friend and I were sitting in our desk making jokes thinking it was some movie until the teacher came in and told us it was real, then the second plane hit. Weird day...

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by inside6 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #23

I'll just say this: many here are convinced our AI overlords have landed and we'll soon all be out of jobs and deepfakes are undistinguishable from the real thing. So I'll say this: if you believe AI is advanced, then in 2022 it's not possible to take this video for granted and you have to take into account that all evidence surfacing from now may be deepfakes. I'm not saying they are: I'm saying you have to keep tha…

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Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by Invictus0 »

flycaliguy wrote: post #42
Invictus0 wrote: post #17

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After all these years, I've still never seen a video of the Pentagon impact. Has anything come out for that?

It seems perfectly plausible to me that releasing video of the Pentagon being struck by terrorists would only serve to glorify the events that day. At the end of the day those agencies did their job and secured any footage. This gave the government the opportunity to decide what is released to the public and I think they made the right choice considering the promotional value of it to the terrorists.

That's not how this works. Classified material is not classified because it would make people feel some type of way. It's because the release of the material would have some effect on national security. With the end of the war in Afghanistan, there is no clear reason in my mind why the declassification of any existing video would be a cause of concern.

https://www.archives.gov/files/isoo/training/training-reason...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-action...

Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]

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Post by spiderice »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #22
Invictus0 wrote: post #17

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After all these years, I've still never seen a video of the Pentagon impact. Has anything come out for that?

Some 3 letters agency (FBI?) immediately raided all the nearby places that could have had cams and seized everything. I'm pretty sure that it's documented: IIRC footage from a petrol station nearby was confiscated. I was there (at the time, in front of my TV I mean) and I clearly remember the first witnesses being interviewed by reporters: as soon as a witness would say something not fitting the official narrative, i…

It’s interesting to me that even 20 years later, any comments that don’t fit the official narrative still get downvoted on HN (and the rest of the internet). There was such a giant push after it happened to not question the official narrative, and that still remains embedded in everyone’s heads. I wonder how long that will last.
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