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Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by ajacksified »

danpalmer wrote: post #5

I'm not sure 40 cards is enough to build the habits and value necessary to justify £8 a month. A free tier with unlimited cards but no sync/local only, could help to get users into seeing value. Also, as much as I'd like to use this, I can't use it due to work security policies. Having a local-only mode with no telemetry would be great. I'd happily pay a one-off for this (after trialling).

> A free tier with unlimited cards but no sync/local only, could help to get users into seeing value.

Quite the opposite, for me. Local storage is far more valuable.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by disintegore »

aantix wrote: post #34
boplicity wrote: post #29

This looks great, but I'm getting very sick of software with recurring monthly fees. I get that it's more profitable for companies, and maybe I'm being a curmudgeon, but what happened to software you could actually buy once and then use forever?

It depends on your expectations - do you assume that the software will be maintained indefinitely with security fixes, bug fixes, features, etc?

Security fixes, bug fixes, features (etc) also help with future sales. Monthly billing is not and never was for the benefit of end users.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

#43

Post by samhw »

toss1 wrote: post #38
aantix wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on your expectations - do you assume that the software will be maintained indefinitely with security fixes, bug fixes, features, etc?

Considering that Steve Ballmer once pointed out that "revving software is insanely profitable", there is no reason that companies couldn't use the model of selling new revisions every year or so, which the users are free to purchase upgrades or skip. It also provides a better incentive to write better software (so the users don't skip more revs). The only reason to not do this is that subscriptions are even more prof…

That works fine for purely client-side software, such as was common in the 90s. Photoshop would be a great model of that. For such software, the only, or main, cost is R&D, and you pay for their R&D for each new version.

It doesn't work so well for software like this, where one of the main selling points is that all your notes are stored in the cloud and can be retrieved on any new device (or by opening the website in a tab). That's a marginal cost which is directly proportional to your actual use of the tool itself - not an R&D cost which relates to developing the code.

I understand objecting to software where the SaaS/cloud aspect is tacked on as an afterthought, to justify a subscription model – again Photoshop is an example – but that's not what's going on here. It's eminently reasonable for this software to be subscription-based.

In short: It's reasonable for a car to be a one-off purchase, but it doesn't work the same way for the gas.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

#44

Post by jbverschoor »

kall wrote: post #24
caslon wrote: post #4

I'm going to get ahead of the curve and warn everyone: Yes, Electron web application. Yes, noticeable input delay. Yes, memory consumption is how you might expect it to be. They distribute on Linux with an AppImage, though, which at least isn't a Snap or Flatpak, so there's that, I guess. If you want a non-proprietary Electron application, take a look at Logseq, or Athens (YC some year that I'm too lazy to look up).…

If you don't care about proprietary OS and want something that follows the Apple HIG, as well as working across Apple platforms, NotePlan is also worth a look. it might look like a task manager at first, but it actually has very solid note taking / backlinking / Zettelkasten abilities. it also has a really approachable/hackable JavaScript plugin api (that works on iOS!) which is not obvious on first look.

Love noteplan... + simply uses icloud drive / cloudkit / local (should work with dropbox)

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

#45

Post by mahathu »

fastball wrote: post #17
AitchEmArsey wrote: post #12

Looks great - so much so that I assumed it would be for Apple devices only, so congratulations and thanks for the Linux support. I'll try it in a bake-off with Obsidian, but the main down-side for me is "notes stored on our servers" - I'd happily sacrifice the collaboration features for a self-hosted option with my data kept as regular text files as much as possible.

Obsidian is great, and if you're looking for affordable, preferably self-hosted, highly customizable Markdown note-taking it is almost certainly the better option. We're trying to be a slightly different kind of app though, where syncing isn't something our users ever have to think about and where collaborating and sharing is as accessible and seamless as possible (among many other goals!) And yes, that means we're p…

Can i export your data as markdown?

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

#46

Post by jbverschoor »

AitchEmArsey wrote: post #12

Looks great - so much so that I assumed it would be for Apple devices only, so congratulations and thanks for the Linux support. I'll try it in a bake-off with Obsidian, but the main down-side for me is "notes stored on our servers" - I'd happily sacrifice the collaboration features for a self-hosted option with my data kept as regular text files as much as possible.

Try out noteplan and turn off sync..

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

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Post by bryanph_ »

Looks great!

Some things I really like:

* The "seamless" mode for all the views that removes action buttons. Feels kind of like an "exploration view".

* New cards created on the home page are automatically added to a "daily" page (but can still be moved to another day).

* I like how the sidebar is done, it doesn't get in the way as much as in other apps.

* The "thoughts" collection, where notes without links go. The name is perhaps a little confusing though.

What I don't really like:

* The editor experience. I feel like a rich text experience might have been a better fit for this kind of application. I like markdown as a portable format, but not to write in. But that's pretty personal I guess.

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

#48

Post by sz4kerto »

aantix wrote: post #34
boplicity wrote: post #29

This looks great, but I'm getting very sick of software with recurring monthly fees. I get that it's more profitable for companies, and maybe I'm being a curmudgeon, but what happened to software you could actually buy once and then use forever?

It depends on your expectations - do you assume that the software will be maintained indefinitely with security fixes, bug fixes, features, etc?

Security and bugfixes generally don't cost that much. Most of the subscription fee is going to go towards new features (and possibly new products).

Re: Show HN: Supernotes 2 – a fast, Markdown notes app for journalling and sharing

#50

Post by chrisweekly »

mahathu wrote: post #45
fastball wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obsidian is great, and if you're looking for affordable, preferably self-hosted, highly customizable Markdown note-taking it is almost certainly the better option. We're trying to be a slightly different kind of app though, where syncing isn't something our users ever have to think about and where collaborating and sharing is as accessible and seamless as possible (among many other goals!) And yes, that means we're p…

Can i export your data as markdown?

Unaffiliated but I noticed (not verbatim) "export to pdf or markdown, or use the api to export to other formats or services"
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