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Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by smackay »

kreek wrote: post #33
nkassis wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you list some of the issues you had a few years ago? I'd like to know if there now solutions to your problems or if you'd still have issues.

Can't speak for PowerPoint, but my company does print to web to print again and our issues with HTML were always how precise it was in terms of rendering text and graphics: Font rendering: With flash you can embed fonts and have them render pixel perfect across browsers. Now with WOFF fonts (see google fonts, font squirrel, typekit) and CSS3 you can pretty reliably embed custom fonts in HTML. Graphics: Flash was firs…

Flash also has text spans for displaying blocks of text. It is not too hard to figure out the line-breaking if you were doing the rendering on the server - Java fonts and other text related code gives a pretty decent approximation to what the Flash Player does. However Flash's text fields which does the wrapping for you and has rudimentary HTML support is a lot easier to use.

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by asymmetric »

hello_moto wrote: post #24
Lewisham wrote: post #4

This is great news. After Scribd's terrible move to lock my content away behind their paywall, I can now start uploading my slides to Slideshare and get the same HTML5 loveliness. Bye, bye, Scribd!

Speaking of Scribd. I didn't know they have a paywall so I decided to check how it works and BAM, they logged me in using my Facebook account immediately!. I need a separate browser just for facebook.

If you're on Firefox, just install NoScript.

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by shadowfiend »

ortatherox wrote: post #27
notatoad wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i've never thought of myself as a non-techie, but apparently i am confused about what HTML5 is as well. i was under the impression it meant rich web apps built with standard compliant technologies. there's a lot of HTML4 in HTML5, it's not exclusive to the few new elements.

Yeah, they may be using the XHTML metatag and relying of divs, but that doesn't mean they're not using some more modern tech to get it working. CSS3 fonts are used in the slides for example. HTML5 is pretty much an umbrella term now and I think this fits neatly into that

HTML5 is definitely an umbrella term, and I think harping on its usage because no new elements are being used or whatever is a bit silly.

That said, CSS fonts were only recently moved to CSS3. For the longest time, they were in CSS2 (http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411/fonts.html#font-... ).

Yeah, I know, the comment boils down to `let's not be pedantic about this, but this thing over here, this let's be pedantic about'. Sorry :) I've always thought it interesting that font-face is a much older technology that took a long time to make it into non-IE browsers (granted, IE only supported the EOT font format).

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by mun2mun »

hello_moto wrote: post #24
Lewisham wrote: post #4

This is great news. After Scribd's terrible move to lock my content away behind their paywall, I can now start uploading my slides to Slideshare and get the same HTML5 loveliness. Bye, bye, Scribd!

Speaking of Scribd. I didn't know they have a paywall so I decided to check how it works and BAM, they logged me in using my Facebook account immediately!. I need a separate browser just for facebook.

I would like Opera's style better. Private tab in same window.

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by yuhong »

bentruyman wrote: post #13

Heh, HTML5. http://i.v3n.us/ASQf Guys, this is just a non-Flash version. But I guess blasting it out there with the HTML5 logo gets a lot more attention, at the cost of confusing non-techies about what HTML5 really is. And trust me, this is a discussion I have ad nauseam with clients. Regardless, I appreciate the move Slideshare.

To be honest, how many web designers (let along the average user) can tell the difference between HTML4, CSS2, HTML5, CSS3, etc... without using view source?

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by wh-uws »

revscat wrote: post #21
esdweb wrote: post #10

This article could be the press release (or footnotes to it) that Jobs never wrote or would write. What I mean is, when Steve Jobs announced a couple of years ago that Apple would go HTML5 instead of Flash, there was great oohing and ahhing but no concise explanation for those of us lesser mortals as to why HTML5 is the better path. And this article does it in a couple of hundred words.Specifically: 1) From iPhone to…

Actually, Jobs did write in some detail on this very subject: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ He specifically mentioned the same points you brought up, plus a few others.

Thanks for sharing that. I had heard it summarized before but don't know how i missed that whole thing.

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by spazmaster »

altrego99 wrote: post #26
hello_moto wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of Scribd. I didn't know they have a paywall so I decided to check how it works and BAM, they logged me in using my Facebook account immediately!. I need a separate browser just for facebook.

Just two days ago when I decided to clean up Facebook applications, I found that I have apparently authorized Scribd to access my data 6 months ago. I never used scribd, and I am very sure I didn't authorize it consciously - there it was in my Facebook applications! Very strange.

Exactly the same here. Never authorized sribd, and bam it's there on my list. Creepy.

Re: SlideShare ditches Flash for HTML5

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Post by alanh »

nikcub wrote: post #39
bentruyman wrote: post #13

Heh, HTML5. http://i.v3n.us/ASQf Guys, this is just a non-Flash version. But I guess blasting it out there with the HTML5 logo gets a lot more attention, at the cost of confusing non-techies about what HTML5 really is. And trust me, this is a discussion I have ad nauseam with clients. Regardless, I appreciate the move Slideshare.

I wondered the other day who owns the html5 trademark and the logo. It should only be licensed to sites that are actually html5 - same for browsers. It shouldn't be hard to come up with some criteria for both apps and browsers as to what is html5. this definitely isn't, since the markup can't be parsed and made sense of as to what the document structure is

You say “should” but I wonder “why?”

If the goal isn’t to certify HTML5-ness so much as increase buzz about pure-web technology – and the W3C has, I believe, confirmed the latter to be the goal of the badge/logo — then no one is harmed by the status quo and a licensing scheme would be counter-productive.

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