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Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by swyx »

rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22
nate wrote: post #15

One fun thing we discovered an outage or two ago: Zoom, which is likely already on your computer too, has a very Slack-like Chat feature. Open up the Zoom app, then click the Chat icon in the top header. You probably missed it this entire time. You can make rooms, DMs, animated gifs, the works :)

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

what do you mean lying through their teeth? citation needed.

Re: Slack is down for some users

#42

Post by anderspitman »

whalesalad wrote: post #38
anderspitman wrote: post #36

The cool thing about Slack (and Discord for that matter) is that it's essentially federated on a technical level. SlackHQ controls all the instances, but the UX is very achievable by an open source alternative. I'm bullish on federated chat in the next few years. It would be awesome to have essentially the same experience as using Slack, but also a server running on our lab's hardware that we can reboot/debug ourselv…

https://mattermost.com

I'm pretty familiar with the various alternatives. Mattermost isn't federated, right? Anything without a strong inter-instance collaboration story can't replicate the experience of Slack/Discord.

Re: Slack is down for some users

#43

Post by bengale »

anderspitman wrote: post #36

The cool thing about Slack (and Discord for that matter) is that it's essentially federated on a technical level. SlackHQ controls all the instances, but the UX is very achievable by an open source alternative. I'm bullish on federated chat in the next few years. It would be awesome to have essentially the same experience as using Slack, but also a server running on our lab's hardware that we can reboot/debug ourselv…

They've got to nail the integrations. Anytime moving to slack alternatives is brought up with people I work with, it always comes down to everything integrating with slack.

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by jerf »

mirekrusin wrote: post #8
abe-101 wrote: post #7

Down for me. Using the browser.

Browser fails with the same message: Something’s gone awry and we’re having trouble loading your workspace. Sorry we can’t be more specific – this is one of those cases where we don’t know what’s gone wrong either. A restart of Slack might help, and you can always contact us. ps. restart of slack in browser? wtf?

"ps. restart of slack in browser? wtf?"

In all seriousness, since I'm sure a lot of people don't know this, use SHIFT-CTRL-r. That instructs the browser to reload everything, ignoring cached resources. This can occasionally "restart" a web page that even a reload or loading the URL in the URL bar again is not sufficient for. Slack is one of those things I've seen it work on.

However, SHIFT-CTRL-r isn't enough now.

Re: Slack is down for some users

#45

Post by bun_at_work »

bitexploder wrote: post #31
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

What alternatives do you recommend? As far as I can tell none of the major video conferencing solutions are made by companies I think are any more trustworthy than Zoom at this point. Plus Google and others ran a focused assassination campaign against Zoom at the start of the pandemic to claw some of their market share.

Google is certainly more secure than Zoom to outside attacks.

Regardless of what Google chooses to do with your data, they do want to protect that data from everyone else, on your behalf. At least as much as any company can (government subpoena affects all companies).

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by anderspitman »

bengale wrote: post #43
anderspitman wrote: post #36

The cool thing about Slack (and Discord for that matter) is that it's essentially federated on a technical level. SlackHQ controls all the instances, but the UX is very achievable by an open source alternative. I'm bullish on federated chat in the next few years. It would be awesome to have essentially the same experience as using Slack, but also a server running on our lab's hardware that we can reboot/debug ourselv…

They've got to nail the integrations. Anytime moving to slack alternatives is brought up with people I work with, it always comes down to everything integrating with slack.

That's interesting. We've played with a couple integrations but don't use any. What sort of org are you in? We're an academic bioinformatics lab with 15-20 people.

Re: Slack is down for some users

#48

Post by Arch-TK »

swyx wrote: post #41
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

what do you mean lying through their teeth? citation needed.

Lol what?

https://techtalk.pcmatic.com/2021/08/03/zoom-settlement/

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/30/21242421/zoom-300-million...

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by mirntyfirty »

swyx wrote: post #41
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

what do you mean lying through their teeth? citation needed.

Wikipedia has a few paragraphs dedicated to their lack of privacy, security, and other unethical telemetry practices. I believe it was a couple years ago when these stories maintained headline positions for a few weeks.
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