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25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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post #25

I'm waiting for mine to be installed. Does anyone have thoughts on appropriate hardware/software? At the moment I'm just running a Linux machine as my router, using standard nftables for NAT and firewall, but I'm curious what others think.

IMO the only hardware without getting into very expensive stuff is Mikrotik. Turris may be an option, but I'm not sure.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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So $843.60/yr ($70.3/mo) + a 1-time $361.54 fee? I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. I pay a little over $100 for 1Gbps symmetrical plus a static IP.

I'd take YOUR deal in a heartbeat. I pay $110/month for 75Mbps down / 10Mbps up and 300GB data. They also constantly harass me with upsells and raise prices 10% per year.

If you’re in the US, you can try out T-Mobile ISP. I get 300 down/ 20 up pretty consistently and no throttle. Ping sucks but can’t complain at $50 a month.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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post #7

>CHF 64.75/month with annual billing (CHF 777.-/year) CHF 64.75 = ~$70USD. But why does 1 / 10 / 25Gbps all cost the same? I am wondering if there are any cheap Swiss Cloud Storage that one could make use of the upload and download speed. You really could have an external HDD in a DataCenter.

Because bandwidth is cheap and people don’t use very much of it on average.

The one-time fee is for covering the expense of the faster optic.

The only expensive thing is the fiber optic line to your house. As long as that’s paid for, bandwidth usage is small potatoes.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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I have 1gbps. I had to get a decent router. Cheap home routers can't handle it even when they outright claim they can. You also want something better than cat5 for home wiring. Lastly spinning hard drives wont keep up on sustained reads/writes you need an SSD. The above is things you should do when you have 1gbps in order to actually get those speeds. I know people will argue citing 640k being enough for everyone and…

> You also want something better than cat5 for home wiring. For 25Gbps? Or are you meaning for the 1gbps you have? If the former, of course, but otherwise Cat5e can handle 10GbE if you have good connections and the loop length isn’t too long.

Cat5 and cat5e are different though. Cat5 struggles with 1gbps.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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post #30

The problem with >1GB/s is the energy you need to saturate it. 10GB/s needs a 10+W router and you'll need atleast 50W of compute behind that. On lead-acid if you want long battery life and a good uptime you'll need atleast 4x 50Ah batteries. 25GB/s does not scale without waste unless you are ok with having 10x lead-acid batteries in the room where you live/sleep because that energy is heating. Dunno about the hydroge…

Lithium has much longer battery life? At least in terms of number of cycles.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fiber is quite future proof To give an example - OS2 single-mode fiber is the standard fiber for contemporary datacenter deployments and I assume also for last-mile deployments. It's super cheap (less than 20cpf for indoor cable, whereas cat7 copper is closer to 60cpf), has an insane range (a standard $25 fiber PHY can operate with a cable from 0m-10km), and has an insane bandwidth limit (it's currently used for ev…

> If you're wiring a home today, I would 100% use OS2 over CatN unless you also need PoE. Won't you end up with a bunch of media converters everywhere though?

A dualport 10 Gbit/s SFP+ PCI-E card with an optic is like 25$ on ebay.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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This is the ISP that I’m using, and they are insanely great, imho. I especially like that you get a static IPv6 /28 for free, something that has finally made me learn IPv6 in depth.

Still only on 1 Gb/s fiber though, because I havent found any router that is 10 or 25 Gbps that I’d really like to have at home. Are there any good consumer-grade 10 or 25 gbps routers?

Also, what is up with all computers _still_ having 1 gbps ethernet ports? It’s been the standard forever, feels like. Why arent there more computers with 10 GbE as standard?

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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post #48

This is the ISP that I’m using, and they are insanely great, imho. I especially like that you get a static IPv6 /28 for free, something that has finally made me learn IPv6 in depth. Still only on 1 Gb/s fiber though, because I havent found any router that is 10 or 25 Gbps that I’d really like to have at home. Are there any good consumer-grade 10 or 25 gbps routers? Also, what is up with all computers _still_ having 1…

Because 10Gbps is a lot more complicated and processing intensive, and almost nobody is in a position to take advantage of it anyway.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fiber is quite future proof To give an example - OS2 single-mode fiber is the standard fiber for contemporary datacenter deployments and I assume also for last-mile deployments. It's super cheap (less than 20cpf for indoor cable, whereas cat7 copper is closer to 60cpf), has an insane range (a standard $25 fiber PHY can operate with a cable from 0m-10km), and has an insane bandwidth limit (it's currently used for ev…

> If you're wiring a home today, I would 100% use OS2 over CatN unless you also need PoE. Won't you end up with a bunch of media converters everywhere though?

SFP module > pigtail > wall patch > OS2 > wall patch > pigtail > SFP Module.
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