Fascinating to me that Gmail is not an app platform yet. Could be huge.
Gmail – A New Integrated Layout
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#42How many (HN) Gmail users still use the Gmail interface? I remember giving up on it as a primary interface in the mid-to-late '00s, my laptop was crappy and the interface had slowed down so much that it was nearly unusable. There was visible lag while typing a message on my circa 2003 cheap HP laptop (I was a student, it was what I could afford). It was like getting sent back to 1996 and typing out documents in Word…
My preference is using isync (IMAP) to a local folder, and interacting via mu4e (inside Emacs).
If I don't have terminal/SSH access, I'll use the "basic HTML" view.
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#43My response to any Google announcement these days is "What's in it for Google?". I used to love Google when it was a scrappy startup with amazing tech, now I just assume they're trying new ways to shaft me.
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#44Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
Inbox was a data-gathering nightmare for our 3-Letter spy orgs.
Inbox wasn't killed for lack of users.
Hangouts, Inbox, and most of Google's prior messaging platforms were terminated due to lack of centralized data-gathering of the most important data sets.
This is old news though.
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#45Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
The decision to get rid of Inbox smells like a lot of office politics. Someone probably create Inbox as a fun new 20% project and then it took off with a massive customer base that was eating into Gmail's metrics and so they decided to kill it.
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#46Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
Inbox was the best email experience I've ever used.
They claimed that everything you like about Inbox has been integrated into Gmail, but it just isn't the same. All of your email categories/bundles were on the landing page. It was super intuitive to click into them and dig down into the hierarchy, and to go back/up a level on any screen you just scrolled to the top or bottom of a screen and overscroll (like a pull-to-refresh type move). I didn't have to pull out drawers or actively jump between categories. It was perfect.
Now with Gmail I have to click into my email categories one-by-one to see what's in each of them. It doesn't do the automatic bundling. And GOD the ads! Which there are not only way too many of, but they're constantly asking me if I find them useful or not. Of course I don't find them useful, I'm trying to check my email.
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#47Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
I think for people who take email seriously (e.g. have work or volunteering commitments) and don’t just use it as a receipt holder, the Inbox concept is horrifying.
Most of the good features are already baked into GMail and Outlook already. The extreme white space Material Design look is already way out of date.
The key feature of having AI monkey with the inbox is a non-starter if you might face consequences for the AI getting it wrong. Even something as basic as Focused Inbox in Outlook causes problems and it’s only got two categories. The base gmail experience is super bad at its own implementation of categorized mailbox.
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#48Gmail used to offer major up changes as a option u had to enable/turn on. I wish they would go back to this. I’m now dreading the many calls/texts I’ll get today asking how to switch back to the old gmail.
(Side note- how is it that the leader in search, STILL does not support wildcard or partial word searching in gmail)
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#49Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
It was so good! Once they got rid of it I started moving away from Gmail because it was clear they just didn’t know what they were doing.
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#50Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
Inbox was a data-gathering nightmare for our 3-Letter spy orgs. Inbox wasn't killed for lack of users. Hangouts, Inbox, and most of Google's prior messaging platforms were terminated due to lack of centralized data-gathering of the most important data sets. This is old news though.
Inbox was pretty much just a new frontend to Gmail. Why would it impede in any data-gathering if that was Google's goal?