Sorry for the choice words, but shit like this makes my blood boil. You're not trying to "keep our children safe" motherfucker, and you know it. You're trying to prevent people from being able to have private conversations, so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily. To phrase it as "but think of the children" is instrumentalizing the actual victims of child abuse and you should be ashamed.
To be honest the motivation to keep our children (or people more generally) safe seems way more clear to me that the motivation… to prevent people from having private conversations… to what end?
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#42Pedofiles and abusers will just install E2EE apps manually or use one of the zillion systems to send E2EE messages.
As an example, banning movie piracy had zero effect in stopping emule, torrents and illegal streaming.
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#45When is "but the children!!!" going to be recognized as overt manipulation?
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#46It feels absolutely horrible to be in a position where I have to be skeptical of any proposed way to stop children being abused, because someone is likely trying to pull the wool over my eyes about an authoritarian power grab they are trying to do, but that's a rational response to the world we live in
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#47Sorry for the choice words, but shit like this makes my blood boil. You're not trying to "keep our children safe" motherfucker, and you know it. You're trying to prevent people from being able to have private conversations, so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily. To phrase it as "but think of the children" is instrumentalizing the actual victims of child abuse and you should be ashamed.
To be honest the motivation to keep our children (or people more generally) safe seems way more clear to me that the motivation… to prevent people from having private conversations… to what end?
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be honest the motivation to keep our children (or people more generally) safe seems way more clear to me that the motivation… to prevent people from having private conversations… to what end?
Except that Removing encryption actively endangers children (and everyone else).
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#50Not a web person, but isn't https end-to-end encryption
Only in the sense that Zoom got lambasted for calling their original setup E2EE. "Well technically our servers that log everything are a end of the communication". At least in the states they faced legal penalties for such a claim (albeit a slap on the wrist).