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Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by philips »

spondyl wrote: post #35
philips wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am hopeful that the Readwise Reader product will be good. However, it is still closed beta.

As a beta user, I can say that while it's super promising and I use it daily, it does still have some rough edges to it hence the closed aspect of it. The onboardings are starting to scale up a bit I believe though. Being able to highlight and take notes on RSS items or emails is very nice.

I bought feedly just to be able to put rss and mailing lists into Readwise but it is really painful UX personally.

And Pocket keeps having trouble with doing reader mode with sites in 2022 and thus can’t do highlights.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by nine_k »

matsemann wrote: post #38
JaggedJax wrote: post #11

This is such a nothing story it's surprising it's so high on hn. There's nothing new with Pocket and nothing new with Firefox, so why are we all complaining about things unrelated to this story? Almost any company will move to provide SSO for all their connected products. Having a separate ff and pocket login is silly at this point.

Because HN loves complaining about how bad Mozilla is, and that they therefore instead use Chrome...

Nevertheless, HN crowd would gladly lambast Google, too.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by vymague »

nicbou wrote: post #21
yolo42 wrote: post #20

Somewhat tangentially related. Pocket seems like a dead product. I have been using it since it can out but it feels old, slow and quite behind. I use it extensively to capture a reading list and then trim it occasionally. Any recommendations for alternatives? Offline web-rendered article views are a must - something pocket can’t do. And their text mode misses quite a few important details when there are equations or…

I am also looking for an alternative. Pocket just isn't good at what it's supposed to do: saving articles for later reading, often offline.

Same. I miss pocket's chrome app. Worked great when offline too.

I don't really care about web service. Any desktop tool that can capture websites like pocket? As in download the stripped-down article. They call it "reader view" sometimes.

There's some extensions/scripts like Markdownload that uses Mozilla's Readibility.js to download stripped-down articles. But it's a bit manual for my taste.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by Computeiful »

chrisseaton wrote: post #28
gnicholas wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When a company with a huge user base (Mozilla) acquires a company with a much smaller user base (Pocket), they're probably not doing it to cross-sell the smaller user base. I thought Mozilla was going to be investing in Pocket and giving them the resources to grow, as well as sending them Mozilla's users — a fraction of whom would become premium Pocket subscribers. But as far as I can tell, there haven't been any not…

So what was the point?

Money laundering? Fundamental incompetence? Pick any reason honestly, they all make the same amount of sense. I've never understood why Mozilla bought Pocket.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by gnicholas »

chrisseaton wrote: post #28
gnicholas wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When a company with a huge user base (Mozilla) acquires a company with a much smaller user base (Pocket), they're probably not doing it to cross-sell the smaller user base. I thought Mozilla was going to be investing in Pocket and giving them the resources to grow, as well as sending them Mozilla's users — a fraction of whom would become premium Pocket subscribers. But as far as I can tell, there haven't been any not…

So what was the point?

I don’t know what the economics were, but it may have been a soft landing / acquihire. I’m sure some people believed in the business case, but the driving force for the acquisition may well have been a VC that wanted an exit, a well-connected founder, etc.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by theshrike79 »

yolo42 wrote: post #20

Somewhat tangentially related. Pocket seems like a dead product. I have been using it since it can out but it feels old, slow and quite behind. I use it extensively to capture a reading list and then trim it occasionally. Any recommendations for alternatives? Offline web-rendered article views are a must - something pocket can’t do. And their text mode misses quite a few important details when there are equations or…

I've been pretty happy with https://pinboard.in/

It doesn't have fancy graphical previews and stuff like that, but it works and archives page contents for an extra fee.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by jacquesm »

matsemann wrote: post #38
JaggedJax wrote: post #11

This is such a nothing story it's surprising it's so high on hn. There's nothing new with Pocket and nothing new with Firefox, so why are we all complaining about things unrelated to this story? Almost any company will move to provide SSO for all their connected products. Having a separate ff and pocket login is silly at this point.

Because HN loves complaining about how bad Mozilla is, and that they therefore instead use Chrome...

Mozilla is the best of the rest, and it's fine to use it instead of Chrome and still be critical of Mozilla.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by ASalazarMX »

powersnail wrote: post #36
yolo42 wrote: post #20

Somewhat tangentially related. Pocket seems like a dead product. I have been using it since it can out but it feels old, slow and quite behind. I use it extensively to capture a reading list and then trim it occasionally. Any recommendations for alternatives? Offline web-rendered article views are a must - something pocket can’t do. And their text mode misses quite a few important details when there are equations or…

I've used instapaper for a long time, and it's a better product than Pocket, but it, too, has the problem of missing images sometimes. If you want to save the entire snapshot of the web page for archival and references purpose, I think zotero is a good choice. But it's not a good read-it-later product.

Another vote for Instapaper vs Pocket. Basic Instapaper allows you to make folders and select to which folder to save, while basic Pocket only gives you a blank, suggestionless space to write tags.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by matsemann »

jacquesm wrote: post #47
matsemann wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because HN loves complaining about how bad Mozilla is, and that they therefore instead use Chrome...

Mozilla is the best of the rest, and it's fine to use it instead of Chrome and still be critical of Mozilla.

Yeah, of course. I just find it tiresome hearing "Mozilla did X, therefore I use Chrome", when Google on the same metrics is orders of magnitudes worse.

Re: Pocket migration to Firefox accounts

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Post by encryptluks2 »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #27
encryptluks2 wrote: post #5

Firefox accounts are terrible. I recently thought I had a second account because I got some error about not using the primary account when trying to reset the password using that email. Turns out that Mozilla still had an old account connected even though it was removed in their interface. If you look through their bug report history they've been plagued with similar issues that they've never been able to figure out.…

Works much better for me than Chrome had.

You mean regular Google accounts?
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